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Post by Darth Escargot on May 12, 2019 11:57:43 GMT -5
Uuh, I'm gonna go ahead and assume 1/35 scale means they'll be the same size as the TT models.
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Post by Snowflake on May 12, 2019 13:47:38 GMT -5
Absolutely bizarre
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Post by Darth Escargot on May 12, 2019 15:52:24 GMT -5
Why? If you look at the size of the pilots for the TT ZW kits, it's clear they're at a larger scale. People have been guessing at what exact scale it's supposed to be ever since the line started, and now Kotobukiya has made it official. This isn't really all that surprising, or at least I wouldn't have thought so. |
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Post by Illandrasen on May 12, 2019 19:25:19 GMT -5
Why? If you look at the size of the pilots for the TT ZW kits, it's clear they're at a larger scale. People have been guessing at what exact scale it's supposed to be ever since the line started, and now Kotobukiya has made it official. This isn't really all that surprising, or at least I wouldn't have thought so. I feel it could have been really cool to have a smaller scale HMM models with high detail. Koto could have really shown off how far they can push injection molding. Another thing, and granted this is a personal opinion and I respect that others may not share this mindset, the 1/35 scale doesn't feel great. I think the thing that bothers me about it is the lore aspect. we know from the Zoids bible that zoids have had 4 known eras of co-existence with humans. Pre-humans, Humans Riders, Back Cockpit, Head Cockpit.  So the whole series already doesn't fit the main universe. So it kind of goes into the alternate universe catagory along with Genesis. but now we also are given the 1/35 scale and that really make them just feel out of place in many people's collections. Again these are just my opinions. |
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Post by Darth Escargot on May 13, 2019 9:31:40 GMT -5
So the whole series already doesn't fit the main universe. So it kind of goes into the alternate universe catagory along with Genesis. but now we also are given the 1/35 scale and that really make them just feel out of place in many people's collections. Again these are just my opinions. I don't disagree with either one of these observations, it just doesn't surprise me. I tapped out of the ZW anime a few episodes in, but it seemed 100% clear to me that it's a reboot with no pretensions of having anything to do with any of the previous Zoids universes. I also don't really think the latter is that big of a deal - there have always been multiple different backstories to Zoids, going all the way back to the OJR battle story and the UK comics. The scale bothers me more because it really doesn't make sense to display the new kits together with the old, and the new pilot figures are... urrk. |
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Post by Illandrasen on May 13, 2019 12:25:12 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what they are going to do as far as pilots go for the HMM versions.
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Post by Snowflake on May 13, 2019 15:35:36 GMT -5
Why did you think the part I thought was bizarre was the fact that the scale is listed? I thought it already was official. It's just bizarre to get HMM zoids wild kits. They're like, opposite in demographic. I'm also kind of annoyed since I don't like HMM or ZW and now we have something that's both. And there's a lot of questions, like are the giant pilots going to be jointed? Will they look like the characters? Will the wild blasts be articulated in HMM-level detail?
I don't think it's a continuity issue (among other things, they're on Earth right?) because we've always had commandzoids and miniature vehicular zoids
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Post by Plushraysetiger on May 13, 2019 15:53:45 GMT -5
Was the Shadow figure that came with HMM Genobreaker articulated at all? I lost mine years ago, so I don't remember. It was a bit bigger, but roughly around the same size as the Zoids Wild pilots, from what I recall.
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Post by Hanyoutai on May 14, 2019 0:46:05 GMT -5
HMM Wilds may be for the opposite demographic, but Wild is pretty popular with adults/parents in Japan, who will appreciate having more adult versions of the new Zoids. Who also tend to buy tons of copies of Wild kits for customization.
... Ironically Wild fits in best with the lore of the Zoids Bible than anywhere else in the franchise. The Zoids Bible also mentioned smaller wild Zoids earlier on, that are ridden by humans. It may not be 100% exact, but imo it's easy to adapt it to current lore. Just a matter of personal opinions. It has no new elements besides Wild Blast, which is a fancified/tangible version of "LEAP THROUGH THE DEATH SAURER BECAUSE YOU BELLIIEEEVEEE" (a plot point I find equally annoying) though I'll concede having weapons locked off is ridiculous.
For the HMMs, unfortunately I don't see them having much room for differences besides being posey. In terms of articulation for the weapons, I could maybe see them making things like the claws swivel, but otherwise most Wild Zoids' blast moves are articulated the way they're meant to be. It would be awesome if they could make the back weapons extendable to the sides, but I suspect it'd cause too many balance problems.
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Post by Darth Escargot on May 18, 2019 10:25:24 GMT -5
Why did you think the part I thought was bizarre was the fact that the scale is listed? Because you posted that directly after me with no other indication of what you were referring to. Sorry I jumped to conclusions, of course, but I hope you can see why. Still, though, I'm not sure I understand your point about demographics - the motorized 1/72nd scale kits from the older lines were also for kids at the time, and the HMM line was always the more adult modeler oriented version of the same design. Agreed about the open questions, though - I'm really curious to see what the pilots will look like, especially. Articulated versions of the characters would certainly be better than what the TT kits come with. |
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Post by dchan on May 18, 2019 17:43:00 GMT -5
DarthEscargot, do you think they'll have the generic pilots? It got me wondering how closely they'll stick to the lore. The Chaotic Century kits stuck pretty close to specific anime/manga characters, so I wouldn't be surprised if the HMM Wild kits focus on the characters in the show as well.
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Post by Darth Escargot on May 22, 2019 11:52:38 GMT -5
DarthEscargot, do you think they'll have the generic pilots? It got me wondering how closely they'll stick to the lore. The Chaotic Century kits stuck pretty close to specific anime/manga characters, so I wouldn't be surprised if the HMM Wild kits focus on the characters in the show as well. They only did that with some kits, though, not all of them. Still, I'm expecting character-specific pilot figures. Seems like a giant wasted opportunity otherwise. |
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Post by Plushraysetiger on May 22, 2019 12:57:32 GMT -5
Wild Liger comes with an Arashi figure, so I think the other Wild kits will also come with their respective pilots (Now I'm hoping for an HMM Scorpear  ). link |
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Post by Illandrasen on May 23, 2019 9:20:02 GMT -5
From that link: (rough Google translation)
The following specifications were announced on the day.
1/35 scale
Full movement of the whole body including eyes and tail
Reproduce each part color coding
Follow the elements to attach the armor to the bone form
Zoids core built-in
Arashi figures included
Joint cap is same size as Takara Tomy Zoids Wild (PS)
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Post by dchan on May 23, 2019 11:05:30 GMT -5
Ah, didn't notice that at the time. Movable eyes too!
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