New Zoids Project Teaser!!! Zoids Field of Rebellion

[Vig]

1.。。。が。。。を撃破した。(this player) destroyed (this player)
2.。。。が。。。に撃破された。(this player) was destroyed by (this player)
3.味方ゾイド復帰。　Ally zoid recovery
4.敵拠点制圧　　　　Enemy base controlled
5.連続プレイ　　　　Continuous play
6.起動メモリ到着　　Startup memory arrival
7.大型ゾイド建造開始Begin Large scale zoid construction
8.作戦終了　　　　　 End of strategy
9.残り時間               Remaining time
10.拠点制圧　　　　　Bases controlled
11.リーグポイント　　League points

I was curious of mid-battle words that pop up, as well as the after battle screen so I used my recordings and some google translate ,and these are the results.

[Falcarius]

Protip for keyboard/mouse users: Bluestacks lets you map keys to points on the touchscreen. Just tap the WASD icon at the top-right (or keyboard icon at bottom-right in older versions) and set the weapon buttons to A/S/D, and you'll have a much better time


I finally got the game working yesterday, so I spent the rest of the day furiously screencapping (and recording the music). I'm actually quite enjoying it - it's got the best gameplay of all the mobile games (which isn't hard), nice music (the win/lose jingles are very reminiscent of Struggle/FMC), and potential for a decent story if it lasts long enough.

...The big problem, though, is how it handles paid content. Material Hunters was quite generous with its Zoid Gold, and you could theoretically get everything except the fancier Zoids without it. On the other hand (as people have already pointed out), Field Of Rebellion currently has no way to obtain Zoid Gold (beyond the 304 you'll start with) besides paying real money for it, and no way to get new Zoids and subpilots without spending Zoid Gold. Worse, the subpilots (as far as I know) can only be obtained at random, at a 10% chance, from the Container Shop - which means there's at best a 1 in 70 chance you'll get a particular subpilot (1 in 80 if Vance is also in there, which he probably is, and 1 in 110 if Anne/Sienna/Eddie are in there too, which I don't think they are). Which means, if my maths is right, you'd need to buy about 200 containers to have an even chance at getting all the subpilots. And each Container Shop container is 200 yen (or 150 if you buy the 10-packs). And you have to obtain each subpilot to unlock their story. I really hope they do something to fix this, because I'm not paying over $300 just to get all the story content.
EDIT: Actually, it's more like 150 containers/over $225, I think. Probability is hard. Anyway, the point still stands.

Speaking of which, I should probably tell people about the missions. The "Special Missions" expire after a certain date (11:59 18/05 for the current ones), since they're meant to be based around events, although at the moment they're just introductory stuff. The "Normal Missions" don't expire, and mostly just involve playing the game a lot.

Special Missions (= Rewards)
18/4~18/5
- Raise Command Wolf (basic) to Lv.2 using "Enhance Zoid" in "Lab" (= metal x200)
- Equip Test-Type Double Cannon using "Change Weapons" in "Lab" (= metal x100)
- Use a Premium Ticket (= Test-Type Double Cannon x1)
- Play VS Mode from "Battle" (= Repair Kit x5)
- Replay prologue in "Mission Story" (= Premium Ticket (Bronze) x1)
16/5~22/5
- Login 6 days in a row -Day 1- (= Zoid Gold (free) x50)
- Login 6 days in a row -Day 2- (= Zoid Gold (free) x100)
- Login 6 days in a row -Day 3- (= Zoid Gold (free) x100)
- Login 6 days in a row -Day 4- (= Zoid Gold (free) x100)
- Login 6 days in a row -Day 5- (= Zoid Gold (free) x100)
- Login 6 days in a row -Day 6- (= Zoid Gold (free) x150)

Normal Missions (= Rewards)
- Acquire Dean Faraday (= Story: A Zoid's Voice)
- Acquire Fearne Kimberley (= Story: Calm)
- Acquire Rosario Livingstone (= Story: Bonds With Zoids)
- Acquire Duane Bertoni (= Story: Rules Of The Battlefield)
- Acquire Trinity Sinclair (= Story: A Female Pilot)
- Acquire Allen McClellan (= Story: Fighting Together)
- Acquire Shawn Muirhead (= Story: Be Quiet)
- Win 10 times with Vance Radford (= Story: Saber Tiger)
- Win 10 times with Dean Faraday (= Story: Command Wolf)
- Win 10 times with Fearne Kimberley (= Story: Red Horn)
- Win 10 times with Rosario Livingstone (= Story: Gordos)
- Win 10 times with Duane Bertoni (= Story: Geno Saurer)
- Win 10 times with Trinity Sinclair (= Story: Dibison)
- Win 10 times with Allen McClellan (= Story: Shield Liger)
- Win 10 times with Shawn Muirhead (= Story: Iron Kong)
- Login 30 days in total (= Always On The Battlefield x1)
- Battle 100 times in total in VS Mode (= Veteran x1)
- Win 5 times in VS Mode (= Corporal x1, metal x100)
- Win 10 times in VS Mode (= Sergeant x1, metal x200)*
- Win 100 times in VS Mode (= Sergeant Major x1, metal x300)*
- Login 7 days in a row (= One Week Battle x1)
- Win 10 times with Dibison (basic) in VS Mode (= Dibison Pilot x1, Memory Chip (N) x1)
- Win 30 times with Dibison (basic) in VS Mode (= Dibison Master x1, Memory Chip (N) x3)*
- Win 10 times with Saber Tiger (basic) in VS Mode (= Saber Tiger Pilot x1, Memory Chip (N) x1)
- Win 30 times with Saber Tiger (basic) in VS Mode (= Saber Tiger Master x1, Memory Chip (N) x3)*
- Raise Iron Kong (basic) to level 20 (= The Empire's Strongest Zoid x1, Memory Bank (A) x1)
- Win 10 times with Red Horn (basic) in VS Mode (= Red Horn Pilot x1, Memory Chip (E) x1)
- Win 30 times with Red Horn (basic) in VS Mode (= Red Horn Master x1, Memory Chip (E) x3)*
- Win 10 times with Geno Saurer (basic) in VS Mode (= Geno Saurer Pilot x1, Memory Chip (A) x1)
- Win 30 times with Geno Saurer (basic) in VS Mode (= Geno Saurer Master x1, Memory Chip (A) x3)*
- Win 10 times with Command Wolf (basic) in VS Mode (= Command Wolf Pilot x1, Memory Chip (S) x1)
- Win 30 times with Command Wolf (basic) in VS Mode (= Command Wolf Master x1, Memory Chip (S) x3)*
- Win 10 times with Iron Kong (basic) in VS Mode (= Iron Kong Pilot x1, Memory Chip (A) x1)
- Win 30 times with Iron Kong (basic) in VS Mode (= Iron Kong Master x1, Memory Chip (A) x3)*
- Win 10 times with Shield Liger (basic) in VS Mode (= Shield Liger Pilot x1, Memory Chip (E) x1)
- Win 30 times with Shield Liger (basic) in VS Mode (= Shield Liger Master x1, Memory Chip (E) x3)*
- Win 10 times with Gordos (basic) in VS Mode (= Gordos Pilot x1, Memory Chip (D) x1)
- Win 30 times with Gordos (basic) in VS Mode (= Gordos Master x1, Memory Chip (D) x3)*
- Raise Red Horn (basic) to level 20 (= Core Of The Armoured Division x1, Memory Bank (E) x1)
- Raise Dibison (basic) to level 20 (= Heavy-Weapons Assault Zoid x1, Memory Bank (N) x1)
- Login 3 days in a row (= Third Time's The Charm x1)
- Login 2 days (= Continuous Play x1)
- Raise Saber Tiger (basic) to level 20 (= Increased Motor Output x1, Memory Bank (N) x1)
- Raise Gordos (basic) to level 20 (= Heavy Bombardment Duty Zoid x1, Memory Bank (D) x1)
- Raise Command Wolf (basic) to level 20 (= High-Speed Combat Zoid x1, Memory Bank (S) x1)
- Raise Geno Saurer (basic) to level 20 (= Overwhelming Combat Strength x1, Memory Bank (A) x1)
- Raise Shield Liger (basic) to level 20 (= Superior High-Speed Combat Strength x1, Memory Bank (E) x1)
(* = unlocked after completing mission above)

Apr 19, 2017 16:48:30 GMT -5 Hanyoutai said:

I am also ... slightly? Annoyed that you don't sign in with E-mail, facebook, etc. I don't think you can play on multiple devices, if that's the case? At least for the same account.

Also, logged in today to have 4 containers to open from one slot. If I'm not mistaken, the one on the end is free and can be opened every X hours. However, it acted as if it gave me all the ones I missed from not logging in, too- is that right? Or is something else going on?

If you need to swap devices, there's an option in the menu to generate a one-time ID and password, which you can then enter at the title screen on another device to transfer your account over. No using the same account concurrently on multiple devices, though, and you lose your Zoid Gold if you swap operating systems.

And yes, the timers on the containers stay active even when you quit the game, which is handy (for one thing, it means you can leave the 12-hour "super" containers counting down overnight). If the Support Container had a stock of 4 instead of 2, I'm assuming you used a Premium Ticket. The different tickets mostly do the same thing (increase your Support Container stock to 4 and increase the metal drop rate for everyone on your team), but fancier tickets have longer-lasting effects (1 day for bronze, 15 days for silver, 30 days for gold). Gold tickets also give you a free 10-pack container from the Container Shop.

Apr 21, 2017 8:23:47 GMT -5 lordofdragons said:

Each weapon has a tiny placement indicator. It looks like a 4-way button pad and indicates if the weapon occupies the top, left, right or bottom slot. Obviously you can not put more than one weapon in the same spot.

That icon's a little misleading - there is no bottom slot. Also, the icon with the diamond in the centre means the weapon can use any slot.

Apr 21, 2017 14:37:00 GMT -5 Hanyoutai said:

I was also curious if anyone understands gray weapons? Does pairing a red weapon with a red slot give a ++ bonus? If so, does pairing exclusive weapons with red slot only give a single + bonus? Is it worthwhile to upgrade silver weapons, if specialties are so strong?

Not sure what you're talking about here - none of the slots are colour-coded and all of the weapons are. Equipped weapons are greyed out, so maybe that's what's confusing you?

[Hanyoutai]

Shame about losing your Zoids gold. I'm keeping the 304 since I imagine it'll change eventually, and don't really need weapons or sub pilots. I can live happily with just my Command Wolf.

For the containers, I've now had a chance to test without tickets. I can open the Super Container for however long I was away. I don't mean the timer keeps counting down, I mean, if I'm gone for 9 hours or so, I can open it 2-3 times before getting the timer again. Even if I have no ticket in place.

And you're right about the weapons, I was confused. Its already been resolved for that bit.

EDIT: Regarding EX stats/extra weapons, apparently getting duplicates 'raises the parameters' of weapons. Still not sure what this means. Some weapons have different level caps (basic level), which seems unaffected. The stats also don't seem to change. At least that I've noticed. The weapons I don't use, that have EX levels, are still nice even numbers.

[Falcarius]

I succumbed to temptation and bought some Zoid Gold so that I could get one of the container 10-packs, hoping for a new subpilot (if my maths is right, 8 shop containers should be enough to have a better-than-even chance at a non-Vance subpilot)... but no such luck I ended up with 924 metal, eight rare weapons (two of them duplicates) and two super-rares (one of them a Shieldy exclusive). While I was at it, I also bought a Saber Tiger, a Dibison and a Gordos, so that I'd have one Zoid for each role. (Technically I did this before the container stuff, otherwise I probably would have bought a Shield Liger >_> )

In other news, I got a Super Container yesterday (the rarest type of Drop Container - not the ever-present container on the right, which is called the Support Container). It took 12 hours to open, so I left it counting down overnight... only to end up with a duplicate of the Shieldy-exclusive super-rare from the 10-pack

As for your Support Container, Hanyoutai, are you sure it let you open it three times in a row after the ticket had expired? Because if it was only two, that's how it's supposed to work. The timer is constantly active (adding to your "stock" every 4 hours whenever it's not full), it just won't be displayed if you have any stock ready to open. And yeah, I still don't know what the "EX level" is about. The walkthrough site says that different parameters get increased depending on the type of weapon, but doesn't give any more detail.


Since I've already ranted about the paid content, I guess it's time to bring up the other big problem I have with Field Of Rebellion: it's more multiplayer-focused than any previous Zoids game (except maybe Online Wars), to the point where you can barely do anything without other players except buy stuff and replay Tutorial Mode. This wouldn't be so much of a problem if FoR could maintain a decent-sized player base, but if it doesn't start improving quickly, it could end up losing most of its players in a matter of months or even weeks - and if it loses too many players, it dies.

There are quite a few issues here. Overall, FoR has lots of potential and isn't really that bad (in fact, it's arguably the best Zoids mobile game since Saga Online), but you quickly run out of anything to do. There's only one map, no leaderboard, no events (so far), not much story... basically nothing to aim for other than completing all the achievements missions, which currently requires you to spend at least 5400 yen (and that's if you somehow manage to get every subpilot in your very first container 10-pack). I suppose you could try to collect all the weapons, but there's no way to tell when you have them all, and the Drop Containers are a horrible combination of "too much time" and "not enough space". To make matters worse, they're planning on extending the Drop Container times tomorrow (supposedly the time limit was shorter than normal as part of the opening week campaign, but they never mentioned this until the maintenance announcement). Needless to say, the Twitter responses to this haven't exactly been positive

So yeah, I hope they make some serious improvements soon before their mishandling kills the game for good. (I'm especially hoping for some way to earn free Zoid Gold, so I can read and archive all the story content without needing to spend hundreds of dollars or beg for screenshots from a bunch of other players.)

[lordofdragons]

My biggest beaf with MP is also that it's all random. Teams are horribly balanced automatically. That reminds me of bad old counter strike servers with auto-team assignment. It's a nuisance if you end up with a douchbag team just to know you have to waste 10 minutes without any fun at all just to wait for the next round. It would have been better to add a match maker system like old GameSpy with server lists and some way to figure out where to join is fun and where not. Which in turn also is a problem with having only one map and all non-paying players having wolves (it's like... being jew marked in your passport... very bad!).

[Hanyoutai]

I really can't imagine that they won't make adjustments to gold, the other mobile games did. They're probably trying to make bank on the "new shiny factor" and will likely implement more earning ways later. Most mobile games do as soon as they start to slow down. I agree with the concern about how activities are handled, though. I find myself just not playing whenever I have my 4 containers stocked, because playing anymore seems wasteful. After all, if I have good luck and win, I lose my prize. This is especially bad when almost all achievements are tied into pay-only options. If they added some that weren't, that gave way better prizes, it'd be a reason to keep battling beyond the drop containers.

At the same time I'm not so confident that's something that'll change. Zoids mobile games don't usually have the lifespan, or motivation to add new major features. Now that my Command Wolf has stopped sucking, and I stand a decent chance in battle I have a lot more fun with the combat system. There's just ... An instinctive "Ok time to stop playing." Factor, and it happens very quickly, which isn't good.

It's also true that the matchmaking sucks. I often find myself glancing at the Zoids alone to see who will win. 2 cash Zoids on their team, none on ours? We probably lose, unless we have 3 or more Missile Wufs.

[Vig]

Apr 23, 2017 16:25:23 GMT -5 Hanyoutai said:

It's also true that the matchmaking sucks. I often find myself glancing at the Zoids alone to see who will win. 2 cash Zoids on their team, none on ours? We probably lose, unless we have 3 or more Missile Wufs.

I have the same thinking and more often than not it comes true! But I had to laugh I had this match yesterday:

Two paying players each with our own team of white wolves. (I'm in the Red shieldy) None of the team mates are missile wufs and I cringed But luckily for me the other team must have been full of beginner wolves because somehow we got three of their bases down without them touching ours and they didn't even set up the Deathsaurer! Maybe taken by someone who couldn't figure out how.

  Then there have been two occasions when a white wolf hadn't even moved from the start line. Makes me wonder if they were first time players who couldn't figure out how to move the zoid.  

 Also has anyone else been having problems? In particular last night, I had 3 matches where player zoids were just dissapearing then reappearing somewhere else. Or the small zoids would be just walking on the one spot or even worse Could not be killed! Yet they could still rudely kill players and in once case Our Deathsaurer almost died because of this. 2 of those matches ended up in me being forced back to the title screen.
I checked my home wi-fi and I had full bars just wondering if it's something on my end or every player would be experiencing it. Judging by what I can see on twitter though quite a few people seem to be having problems.


   And lastly. To keep as a one stop reference for the stamps I'll leave this stamps translation Tumblr post here
And thanks to Falcarius again for his input.

[Hanyoutai]

I admit I always feel a sense of unity when I end up in a 100% wolf pack.

I haven't had the issue of getting booted back to the screen (had a disconnect once so far), but I have seen minor teleporting of Zoids. Not much further than the edge of the screen. Possible culprits:
- Lag; Our internet may work well, game servers might not be
- Return to base; Blue button in top-right returns you to base after 5 seconds
- When Zoids go into the forest, they disappear from the map, so may appear to teleport.

Though, I've also had a funny issue twice now where I get stuck with an ally who has no Zoid. I'm not 100% sure what causes this, haven't gotten around to translating the error, but it is always a kind of bitter feeling. Like, how? You start with a Zoid and you can't sell them.

[Vig]

Apr 24, 2017 20:06:20 GMT -5 Hanyoutai said:

I admit I always feel a sense of unity when I end up in a 100% wolf pack.

I haven't had the issue of getting booted back to the screen (had a disconnect once so far), but I have seen minor teleporting of Zoids. Not much further than the edge of the screen. Possible culprits:
- Lag; Our internet may work well, game servers might not be
- Return to base; Blue button in top-right returns you to base after 5 seconds
- When Zoids go into the forest, they disappear from the map, so may appear to teleport.

Though, I've also had a funny issue twice now where I get stuck with an ally who has no Zoid. I'm not 100% sure what causes this, haven't gotten around to translating the error, but it is always a kind of bitter feeling. Like, how? You start with a Zoid and you can't sell them.

I've yet to experience a Pride of shield Ligers, So you're lucky in that regard.

I think you solved it there with that blue return to base button. That makes sense particularly as it usually happens when I'm shooting at them. I've strangely only used it once, Why don't I use it more. I should, would have probably saved my butt on more that one occasion. And yea the edge of the forest is a funny area, there one second and pop, next second gone in half a step. Then there's the odd occasion I've seen zoids hover past like they are on rollerblades, I'll blame that one on lag though.


I think I've seen that pilot but no zoid error too, Pretty sure we just started with only three zoids when that did happen, so my guess is that's what happens when the connection is cut whilst loading. Probably the same as when a player disappears mid match sorta thing.

[Hanyoutai]

Yeah, I've had the hovering too. I think the most hilarious was when an enemy died, and a minute later this flopped over Command Wolf just comes sliding through the gate of our base before it disappears.

I don't tend to use 'return to base' because it's way faster to just die. You lose 3 seconds or so of time, but get returned to full health, Vs. spending 5 seconds returning, then another 10 (1 tick per second) healing. So dying gives you more field time.

Going back to an earlier post, I think maybe there was a glitch with EX levels not displaying correctly. After the patch I'm noticing stat changes to my EX weapons, so they're all now (proper) uneven numbers. I'm noticing 1 attack point per level for ones I knew stats of before hand. Haven't paid close enough attention to the other stats but I don't think they've gone up? I'll check when I get a level up on one of my main weapons. Wonder what the max EX level is?

[Vig]

Yep, also don't think I'll be changing my ways in that regard. Fight to the death!

I hadn't been paying attention to the EX at all, To be honest I wasn't even sure what it is. My head said Experience but weapon experience doesn't make sense they are not living. Help?


www.4gamer.net/games/357/G035786/20170424082/   On another note, it looks like zoids Field of rebellion are setting up a booth at a convention near Tokyo on April the 29th. Too bad I'll be on the other side of the country! Frustrating. But I had a quick scan through and it seems there will be a Deathsaurer with a hole in it's mouth so people can throw a ball into and win prizes? As well as everyone who visits the booth will receive one of those Blade liger cards (whilst stocks last).

I'm very looking forward to seeing photos on the day of this. Sounds very amusing.

[Falcarius]

They're advertising it as "defeat the evil Death Saurer and rescue the beautiful lady", which is... interesting. Everyone who tries the ball-throwing game gets some "Shield Liger exclusive" grape-flavoured Hi-Chew "Zoi-Chew", everyone who tries Field of Rebellion itself gets a Shield Liger-themed prepaid Quo card (looks like it's for 500 yen), and all visitors to the booth get a foil imitation Card Colosseum card showing a Masterpiece Shield Liger (the QR code just leads to FoR on the Google Play Store).

(It's possible there are multiple versions of all these bonuses - I'm just describing the ones shown in the pictures, which are all Shieldy-themed.)

[Vig]

Ok that's even better than I expected. I want a shield liger Grape zoi-chew! Though I'd want two, one to eat and one to keep. What a hard call to make. So I wonder who the beautiful lady is... Someone zoid related??


This will be interesting indeed.

[lordofdragons]

It become already totally useless. Non-payers have no chance anymore. I've seen people finishing off a DS in 3 hits while yourself as non-payer have to whittle at it all the way from left to right. This unbalance is going to cause a huge exodus since nearly every MP lives from the free players because without free players there's not enough for paying players to match up with. 1 week until being totally broken... I think that makes the record book. I know no other MP based game having managed that in this short time.

EDIT: Oh man... these connection problems are really something else. Game crashes, you go back... no... you are in a match... you have to wait 10 minutes... what? Another time trying to press that weapon button which is sooooo close to the hard-menu button that suddenly the app switches with the next one. Oh great, stupid button layout. Switch back... con-drop! wait 10 minutes... again... <.=.< ... they really should have thought more about connection handling and this stupid 10-minute-lockout. A con-drop is a con-drop. Reallllly bad stuff.

[Hanyoutai]

That's really strange, and sounds like maybe a glitch exploitation to me. I haven't ever seen a Deathy go down in less than 20 hits or so. It takes 3 unchallenged Zoids to bring one down quickly, regardless of if they're premium currency Zoids or weapons.

Maybe some changes to equipment may help? My current strategy consists of:
- 1 green Air-Launching missile, 1 green cannon, 1 red 3-lock weapon (or blue if you don't help small Zoids)
- Always go for left or right base first, cause center just gives them a direct route
- Always prioritize firing missile. Even if you die it'll land and do good damage.
- When possible, run into their base and fire until dead. Probably won't be long.
- See another missile Zoid on your team? Follow that guy. You'll take down bases fast.
- Circle in front of enemy Deathy. It'll fire its CPC, making it stop, and giving you time to attack.

That seems to help me win half of my battles or so, with non-paid equip and Zoid. Sometimes more. Can't really help with connection issues, they affect everyone differently. I've only been disconnected twice but I know more than a couple people that are far less fortunate. Annoyingly, the two times I've lost connection were both at the battle victory screen, so I lost my prize.

Argh. Cards. I'm gonna need that Shieldy card, just for the heck of it, and would also love to get the chewies. Can't wait to see some video of the toss game, it sounds cute~