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Post by y1997 on Feb 27, 2004 21:25:19 GMT -5
If Zoids were livieng mechanical beings how come they have cockpits for people? Or did people modify the Zoids so they could control them?
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Post by Leo on Feb 27, 2004 22:46:36 GMT -5
As I understand it, Zoids are a mixture of organic matter and machines. The metal comes from Zi's highly metallic oceans. Zoids were once born wild and didn't appear to have any cockpit. You can see a wild liger if you copy and paste this link. If you click on the link, you will get an error message. Please copy and paste: www.geocities.com/tgcsilver/wild-liger.jpg(First person who clicks on the link, gets an error page, and posts a message saying "I can't see it" gets a spanking  ) Zoidians used to alter Zoids to be used in their wars, and the arrival of humans on Zi only sped the arms race. I'm guessing it was Zoidians and humans who added the cockpit to Zoids. |
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Post by aqouli on Feb 27, 2004 23:19:03 GMT -5
I've wondered myself about the tame/wild Zoid dilemma too. At one point I thought they just caught the wild ones and hollowed their heads out. Pretty grotesque, eh?
I suppose since they're mostly metallic, they do not possess many vital organs (perhaps none at all), and the only thing that is really vital are their cores. Perhaps that is why they're so easy to customize. Muscles would be made of a two-layer alloy that bends when heat is applied, and such. No bloodstream, just a constant flow of energy from the core.
On another note, anyone ever note the strangeness of how the name Zoids came about? (It's a combination of Zoic and Androids, BTW.)
Androids suggests that they have human or human-like traits. Kinda strange, when you take note that they're all animals. *shrug*
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Post by Leo on Feb 28, 2004 0:09:19 GMT -5
I've always considered androids a mixture of flesh and metal. But where does Zoic come from?
As for the organic parts, I imagine a Zoid core is mostly organic, but the manga describes Zoids as having "metal-based cells." I'm guessing there's just enough organic matter in the Zoids body to make them a life form. The probably explains why some Zoids don't accept specific CP parts (fan customs aside). It could be that the genetic similarities have to be just close enough so the added weaponry won't be rejected.
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Post by aqouli on Feb 28, 2004 1:41:45 GMT -5
I believe Zoic comes from the many terms used to describe the paleolithic eras (AKA, the age of the dinosaurs). Things like Mesozoic, Jurassic and Terrasic. My spelling is probably off though, but that's the general gist of it.
I'd imagine Zoid cores as shiny, glowy things. And as for metal-based cells, that's not really too far off-- our own red blood cells have quite a bit of Ferum in them (or iron in Layman's terms) to carry oxygen around the body. I'd suppose that a Zoid's cells are dominantly metallic, but have remarkably different features from us. They may not have a nucleus, or other things. (Biology has long since faded from my mind...)
I don't see why the cells are able to reject CP units. They are totally separate from the actual Zoid itself, so there shouldn't be any problem.
Maybe the Zoid just doesn't like the CP?
*Gun Sniper looks at CP-03 dangling from garage ceiling*
Gun Sniper: "I am SOOO not lugging that thing around."
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Post by Leo on Feb 28, 2004 1:55:14 GMT -5
I don't see why the cells are able to reject CP units. They are totally separate from the actual Zoid itself, so there shouldn't be any problem. Maybe the Zoid just doesn't like the CP? I see it this way: a CP must interact with the Zoid's nervous system to receive commands to fire and aim. That's not too different from a body receiving a new organ, which always carries the possibility of the immune system rejecting the organ. Same premise with the CP. This isn't fact, of course. Just my speculation. I'm probably over-analyzing.  |
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Post by aqouli on Feb 28, 2004 8:21:01 GMT -5
I see it this way: a CP must interact with the Zoid's nervous system to receive commands to fire and aim. That's not too different from a body receiving a new organ, which always carries the possibility of the immune system rejecting the organ. Same premise with the CP. This isn't fact, of course. Just my speculation. I'm probably over-analyzing. Oh, I see. That makes sense, I suppose, though I'll always think of CPs as being separate from the actual Zoids themselves. Mount it on, wire it up to the weapons and ordnance systems in the cockpit, and you're ready to go. But since Zoid lifeforms don't work like ours do, I can't say this is fact either. =P |
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Post by Transbot9 on Feb 28, 2004 11:52:28 GMT -5
Personally, I think humans simply disected the wild zoids & then reversed-engineered them using their own knowledge of mechanics, adding cockpits or whatever in the process. Kinda gross...
I do prefer the nanocelular theories in organic-like robotic beigns, as it allows for healing & such given a power supply.
Cyborg is a hybrid of flesh & machine, Android is a mechanical copy of a human. Biroid (biological android) is a copy of a human made of biological material, usually designed for a specific purpose and sometimes laced with a special ability. Basically, a biroid is a human genetically designed for a specific task.
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Post by aqouli on Feb 28, 2004 12:16:48 GMT -5
I don't think all Zoids were wild. Production values will soar if everyone had to capture a Zoid to make one.
I believe that most were probably bred, and I personally theorize that some were introduced, like wolves and other mammals, which they built from the knowledge they gained by analyzing the ones they captured.
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Post by BarkingSquirrel on Feb 28, 2004 15:43:03 GMT -5
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Post by Tilly on Feb 28, 2004 17:36:39 GMT -5
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Post by Dracheon on Feb 28, 2004 17:52:34 GMT -5
in episode of zoids Dr. D makes lighting saix and put command wolfs core in it wile talking about having to program it's memory systems. implying to me that Organoids were much mor plentifull on zi till their cores were taken out and put inside larger zoid bodies and then cyberneticlly fused to it like it were it's own body.
in my opinion a zoid can have any weapon just toys are piccy ;D ;D ;D
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Post by BarkingSquirrel on Feb 28, 2004 19:40:03 GMT -5
I'm not even going to touch that one...
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Post by Dracheon on Feb 28, 2004 19:41:11 GMT -5
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Post by LordGale on Feb 28, 2004 20:50:59 GMT -5
You can't blame her, SquirrelDude, she's from Japan. And she's our first Japanese member, which I suppose is some sort of milestone. And it's ironic, kinda.
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