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Post by Maethius on Nov 17, 2022 11:06:32 GMT -5
Aren't all of these using the Masterpiece Shield Liger as a base? They are designing new armor on that frame?
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Post by Darth Escargot on Nov 17, 2022 13:29:12 GMT -5
Most of it is proportion changes, but the leg armor looks pretty different. Definitely much closer to the Tomy original than the BL, though.
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Jan 5, 2023 21:08:23 GMT -5
Still waiting for Liger Zero to go up for pre-order.
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Post by Darth Escargot on Jan 7, 2023 8:20:18 GMT -5
I haven't followed Zoids Wild, was that ever good compared to the previous anime series in terms of show quality and toyline? It was very kid oriented, which is as it should be (Zoids has only ever been successful when it was squarely aimed at kids), and a lot of fans from the CC/NCZ era hated it for that reason. I always thought that was hilarious because I got into Zoids in the 80s, so I felt that way about CC and especially NCZ when it came out 20 years ago, and now I'm just waaay beyond caring. The Zoids themselves were good quality wise - they worked, they had interesting gimmicks, the gearboxes were far better than the 80s ones, and parts fit was just as good as Zoids have always been. But the aesthetic was definitely different, and speaking as someone who has done a Youtube review of every single one of them, I'd be lying if I said more than two or three of them really hold a candle to the classics in my mind. |
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Post by Snowflake on Jan 7, 2023 17:55:23 GMT -5
Yeah they're a mess. I can forgive fewer joints and all of that, but a lot of them have a nicely designed inner skeleton and a bunch of random lines scribbled on it for the armor
the CC/NCZ era was way more fun and vibrant than the drier, more serious classic days which had no non-written fiction to go with, but it was always stylish and cool and almost never kiddy. Good times
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Post by Maethius on Jan 10, 2023 15:43:58 GMT -5
You can have a kit made with less parts and less articulation if you design them to LOOK like they have more joints and more articulation! The skeleton/armor aesthetic doesn't really work for me because they are supposed to represent a natural evolution of mechanical animals... a human, then, would look like the Terminator wearing hockey pads. Mind you, some of the kids DO look really good, but the change in scale, articulation, and aesthetics made 90% of them completely uninteresting to me, and I couldn't stomach the cartoon even through episode 1.
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Post by Snowflake on Jan 10, 2023 21:13:05 GMT -5
Solid agree.
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Post by Darth Escargot on Jan 14, 2023 8:40:14 GMT -5
See, as a big fan of the Z24 line, I actually quite like the idea of detailed inner skeletons partially concealed by less detailed armor, I don't mind external pilots and I think there's room for scales other than 1/72nd, plus I also couldn't stomach NCZ past about one or two episodes because I wasn't, uh, 12 when it came out. So it's nothing about what the line was like in principle that I have an issue with, it's just that almost all of them came in colors I didn't like (I also had this problem with the NJR era because I grew up on the drab OER color schemes, and I'll never not like those best), as someone here once said, they had Pokémon proportions and just generally often looked vaguely goofy, especially because of the googly eyes, which are possibly the worst design decision in Zoids history. But it was always more about the individual models just not having the overall feel of what I liked about Zoids for me, more than anything fundamentally about the line.
What's funny is that in hindsight now, it's pretty clear that TT realized what the problem was and tried to course correct. ZW Zero was basically a rehash of the CC storyline (haven't finished watching that either, though), the models looked more mechanical, they had more armaments, and they came up with an in-lore reason to cover up the googly eyes. The last two models (Xenorex and Burning Liger) actually looked really promising, but whether because of the pandemic or some other reason, I think it's pretty clear that it's dead now.
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Post by Snowflake on Jan 14, 2023 18:11:49 GMT -5
Yeah I was genuinely interested in getting xenorex and burning liger, just waiting for them to become somehow affordable to acquire in the west, along with the color variants and add-ons.. but that never happened and zoids seems to have just died again. Hope it comes back once more before mold degradation destroys all the old ones.
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Post by Darth Escargot on Jan 19, 2023 13:50:05 GMT -5
before mold degradation destroys all the old ones. My guess is that ship's sailed. Some of the last reissues of the 80s kits already showed issues like the Iron Kong's canopy not closing properly anymore. The gearboxes are also really showing their age compared to the ZW gearboxes that are tiny by comparison and make far, far less noise. Plus the lightbulbs would need to be replaced with LEDs. I honestly think if we're ever going to see new versions of the classics, they're going to have to be retooled kits at this point, and that's the reason why it didn't happen when ZW was at its height. |
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Post by Snowflake on Jan 19, 2023 18:18:30 GMT -5
I never had trouble with my iron kong cockpits.. I think. hmm maybe I need to go look again.
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Feb 3, 2023 9:09:48 GMT -5
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Feb 3, 2023 21:12:37 GMT -5
The reason why the paw is glowing is because it’s supposed to represent the Strike Laser Claw.
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Feb 8, 2023 10:55:52 GMT -5
AZ-02 Liger Zero will come out in September for 13,000 yen.
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Post by Charlie on Feb 8, 2023 15:10:10 GMT -5
Apparently there are LEDs to make the kit glow which includes Eyes, Zoids Core, and Laser Claw.
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