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Post by ultimateultrasaurus on Oct 8, 2019 17:55:14 GMT -5
Well here are the Hasbro releases with boxart.
So for everyone who wants some Zoids and didn't allready import the Japanese versions.
A few things are different though.. For starters it's just called Zoids instead of Zoids Wild. Also no designations like ZW01 etc. The names are different (and even though the Japanese kits sometimes have weird names, these take the cake). So expect the translated anime to be having those names as well. (As opposed to the Singapore version which was English but had the same names.)
Then obviously they apparently have the figs included (bit stupid that TT never included them in the first place..)
I do like the boxart, which is drawn not photoshopped.
And weirdly enough the parts look different, like the legs on Spideath look much lighter (light grey instead of black). And the eyes are not seperate parts anymore? Looks like the eyes on Raptor are allready on the mold? Same as for Spideath. And the paint of those eyes is normal green as opposed to the Japanese shiny metallic look?
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Oct 8, 2019 22:13:52 GMT -5
Did not see that coming.
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Post by Xehn on Oct 8, 2019 23:44:10 GMT -5
Unfortunately it looks like these are going to be severely simplified releases. Hopefully they're a cheap kid-friendly pricepoint and the original molds are also used.   Compare the inside of the shell and the way the bits that are supposed to fold out connect to the torso. |
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Post by ironman117 on Oct 9, 2019 3:13:18 GMT -5
I wish they would hand it over to Mattel like Jurassic World. Hasbro did so terribly with that line it would make it seem like Jurassic World toys were just a flop, but Mattel rescued and extremely improved them and they are doing great. It seems like Hasbro can't be bothered with even minutely smaller lines. Either that or here's to hoping I'm wrong.
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Post by Snowflake on Oct 9, 2019 13:55:00 GMT -5
What do you mean by 'figs included' ? You mean the anime-looking figures weren't included originally but now they will?
I seriously doubt they went to the trouble of changing the molds to simplify things, the changes are probably just production mistakes. Remember Hasbro's infamous incompetence, they can't assemble things for stock photos to save their life. Probably left a bunch of parts out and misassembled other parts
The dub names look hilariously random, not even logical changes or adaptations like previously, they obviously have different people behind it this time. Still, closer releases means lower prices for us
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Post by Maethius on Oct 9, 2019 14:33:04 GMT -5
That is so odd... the insides of the tortoise looks completely different... it even has a different gun! It will be interesting to see the comparison photos of both lines that are destined to come out. Another intriguing concept would be to see if the Hasbro line will include unique models, not just recolors, like the Gravity Zoid line or unique Ltds.
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Post by Xehn on Oct 9, 2019 14:35:50 GMT -5
Snowflake, the parts are significantly different. The folding panels and ribcage parts attach in an entirely different way, and you can see enough of the inner surface of the shell to see the mold changes.  This isn't just 'missing parts', unfortunately. (the gun barrel looking different COULD just be a missing part, though) |
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Oct 9, 2019 18:57:55 GMT -5
Are these Japanese molds or US molds?
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Post by Xehn on Oct 10, 2019 13:29:00 GMT -5
In that graphic I posted, the left one is Tomy's, and the right is the Hasbro tooling.
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Post by Snowflake on Oct 10, 2019 15:13:43 GMT -5
Baffling, that had to be a lot of extra work
well in that case i won't buy them
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Post by Hanyoutai on Oct 10, 2019 15:55:58 GMT -5
So far I think Hasbro is doing good with the handling of Zoids, but time will tell. The boxes are a LOT more appealing than the Japanese ones. The names aren't great, but tbh, Wild has had a lot of flop names anyway, so it's not a hill I'm going to die on. The kits are simplified I'm guessing to make them either less of a pain or less of a choke hazard. I don't mind the eyes being glued, and it'll be awesome if we really do get pilots.
The biggest complaint I've got is Spideath. The change of parts removes a lot from its design aesthetic imo. Gannontoise is just kind of confusing, because there's a lot more than the gun changed. Always thought the opening spine was a bad design choice I like to think spines are somewhat important to structural integrity, but would've been nice if they put something there in its place. Tbh though it's not a Zoid I like much, so at least it won't feel like such a waste to buy the US version.
So far two kits (Gannontoise and Spideath) have mold changes. If you don't mind the color changes, the rest seem to be close enough to the Japanese versions. Didn't notice anything different on them aside from what I'm presuming are also glued eyes.
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Post by ultimateultrasaurus on Oct 10, 2019 18:35:15 GMT -5
I don't know.. but if Japanese kids (6+) can build these and not suffocate, then why would American kids? Lego has small pieces, that's going okay. Yeah I know American companies are scared people will sue them, but come on...
The riders are cool and indeed the boxart is better. But they could have done the riders in the first place. (Or like I stated earlier, bring out a box with all the riders, sitting and standing, like Arashi)
Waiting for the names of the riders by the way. Is Arashi gonna be called Hank or something??
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Post by Hanyoutai on Oct 10, 2019 18:51:06 GMT -5
That was a blind guess, and while that may be true, every country in the world isn't governed by the same regulations. Though I'm more inclined to believe it's just because they're annoying and fiddly to put in. The Wild kit concept is ease of access and build compared to the NJR. Hasbro may have requested that they get rid of certain things that didn't test as well. Especially if they're backing off a bit from the whole excavation thing.
They changed "Build Them To Life" (the implied restoration from a skeleton) to "Build Them To Battle". We've not seen the back sides of the box yet, but they lack the earthy style interior packaging, etc. So I suspect the backs of the boxes may not share the theme, either. Of course, this is purely conjecture as of yet and it wouldn't be a huge loss. I liked the theme but they kinda pushed it to the back burner for the accompanying show anyway.
Wouldn't be surprised if they change the pilot name, but of course, if they change Arashi, it has to be to Chicken~ Can't break that food naming theme!
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Post by Maethius on Oct 11, 2019 15:56:54 GMT -5
It looks like TT is covering their bases; the TT line, Hasbro line, and Koto lines would release each design across three age demographics. One question I have is, do the simpler Hasbro kits cost less than the Japanese kits? The other question I would ask is, would they be better for building customs because they are more solidly built?
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Post by Hanyoutai on Oct 11, 2019 20:19:35 GMT -5
From what we saw of a semi-public inventory catalog, the kits will be roughly the same price, with Wild Liger around $25. The Hasbro line isn't really a simplified series, so it makes sense that they'd be around the same price. Aside from the eyes, only two kits have changes. Those two kits equate to maybe a 3 parts difference. Hasbro is being a little more cautious about the safety ratings. Their kits are aimed at an older demographic (8 years and up compared to TT's 6 year rating).
There have been some amazing customs on Twitter. I think the Hasbro kits will be just as good for customizing, unless you had something super specific in mind for those particular parts. What people can do with these simple kits leaves me speechless.
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