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Post by Vig on Dec 19, 2017 23:57:37 GMT -5
We all knew Liger would have to come along at some point ey. It's funny the maintenance announcements are getting very last second, this time it was the afternoon before they announced an update. I was thinking the bladeys needed an adjustment, they were running out of control! The bullies of the battlefield. I bought a liger zero, it's so beautiful to watch. Taken it for one battle so far, at only level 20 though, didn't do too bad but still needed some more levels ,was easily falling victim to Blade ligers equipped with mines as usual. So i'll leave it in the hangar as a project zoid for now and bring it out at a later date, still focusing on berserk fuhrer missions. Whilst doing so I'll decide which colour scheme I like. Thinking the beige one with the Black cockpit canopy.
What'd they change with the HQ Missiles? I'm yet to be hit by one yet? Maybe I should go for a run in tutorial mode and find out.
I noticed the friend count has risen to 50, I saw people asking for that on twitter, i think they definitely listen.
I also obtained the new Pilot Kay Primrose and the dual sniper rifle in the same Gacha container was very very nice.
Gordos's Guns make Gordos not so useless anymore, they are the best, really long range too. Get both sides equipped with them and a healer and Gordos becomes something not to be reckoned with. You said you took Liger zero straight up to level 2? Awesome seeing how strong he will become but are you not planning to do Ligers 10 and 30 win missions then?
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Post by Hanyoutai on Dec 20, 2017 0:40:43 GMT -5
I do agree it needed adjusting, it's just backwards to nerf the Blade Liger in the name of 'game balancing' and then add the Liger Zero that has even higher stats. At lvl 34 it's pretty much already better than my other 4speed destroyers, and at default only has -10 attack and -10 range under Gunblaster. Liger Zero lvl 34: Compared to 2nd Upgrade Saber Tiger (lvl 47): +330 HP, +218 EN, -1 Attack, +4 Defense Compared to 2nd Upgrade Blade Liger (lvl 42): +310 HP, +410 EN, -17 Attack, +32 Defense
The HQ missiles supposedly won't knock you down if you get hit by them, so you can't abuse the knock down invincibility to tank a Headquarters. Glad to see the friend count increase! And also congrats on the new pilot~ And Dual Sniper Rifle. Let me know how it compares! I agree for Gordos, just unless they make a huge change to how much metal we get, I doubt I'll ever level him up much. If I get the other one, might take him out a few times for sure, though.
For the Liger, I won't be doing any lvl up missions in the foreseeable future, so skipped it. Furher is ok where he's at, and otherwise I don't have anything that needs upgraded. I'd love to upgrade a gunbluster if I ever get their unique weapon, but that's about it. Was going to upgrade Blade Liger, but I don't really need to anymore. Zero pretty much replaces it.
If I do decide to, I can always pick up another~ I keep all of my destroyers equipped differently, so I wouldn't be fussed buying a second. Especially with all those nice colors. I could use it for a 2-gat destroyer, as I don't have one of those yet~ (Also just checked the lvl rewards in my screenshots, and wow, 3 levels in a row give x3 all memory chips.)
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Post by Falcarius on Dec 20, 2017 1:42:09 GMT -5
Oops, forgot to check the updates last night. Let's see...
- New Zoid: Liger Zero [Destroyer] - New pilot: Kay Primrose - New weapon: Strike Laser Claw (LZ) [Zero-exclusive SR, lowers enemy defence, deals extra damage against Berserk Fuhrer] - New Zoid set: Liger Zero (black/red) + 10000 Metal + 10 Repair Kits + 1 10-Pack Container [costs 3000 Zoid Gold, ends 26/12] - Current VS map: Desert [ends 26/12] - Current Fever: Container Fever [better chance of rare Drop Containers, ends 26/12]
Kay Primrose: An irregular F.E.S pilot. She has no experience of belonging to an army, and taught herself how to pilot. However, her skills are already first-rate. She hates to lose and is enthusiastic about studying. Her knowledge about Zoids is top-level, even within F.E.S. She sees Sophia as a rival and one-sidedly competes with her. [As in, Kay is consciously "competing" but Sophia isn't.] Full Burst: "Overrunning New King of the Beasts" (decreases enemy Zoids' anti-Zoid AT and speed for 11 seconds) Passive Skill: "Irregular Pilot's Pride" (increases her Zoid's defence and maximum HP) Recommended Zoid: Liger Zero
Oh, and I tried out the AndApp version. It installed easily enough and isn't nearly as much of a glitchy memory hog as Bluestacks, but unfortunately it seems to check your IP location far more often, so you can't just turn your proxy off as soon as you get to the title screen like you could with the mobile version. The movement controls also seem to be keyboard-only (and a little tricky to get used to due to the diagonal orientation), so you don't have as much control over orientation (unless you use a gamepad). I might end up switching to the AndApp version anyway, just so I don't have to put up with Bluestacks being temperamental any more...
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Post by Vig on Dec 20, 2017 21:08:01 GMT -5
I'm definitely looking forward to getting liger up there, will definitely do the missions first though. It just bugs me having them there like what happened with my Red Horn.
Wow last night I was absolutely blind drunk, thanks to my brother and winning $100 worth of free drink vouchers at the pub, Just spent half the day in bed too hungover to move. I was playing on the train and again when I got home using Berserk Fury focusing on bases. Then Hanyoutai turned up in Liger Zero on the enemy side, Thought I might try and take you down Han but I absolutely could not! Liger zero has such good defence. What I should have done was run as far away as I could, I had 7 Deaths and I think they were all Hanyoutai inflicted, Pretty sure I single handedly lost our team the match lol. Watching the match again realised silly mistakes I made like thinking I could take on a Liger zero I knew was upgraded twice for starters and things like not noticing how red my health was like near death Red. Don't drink and zoid. No it was fun though still! I was admiring your liger zero whilst being killed. Let me know if you want me to drop box you the match.
Kay looks like a good pilot to use, an alternative to Shawn but maybe better depending on if any defence has been balanced out for the health boost.
And lastly I tried out the base missiles in Tutorial mode and it is indeed true! The missiles will not knock you out. The small base missiles still do though, I encountered a Pink Dimetrodon sitting on the small bases taking full advantage of the missiles and we couldn't kill the thing! So much time was wasted on that little bugger.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Dec 20, 2017 21:53:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the info! Wish Furher's CPC could get a buff to do the same thing. If he hadn't missed, Liger Zero would've been in for a hurting in the anime!
Haha, well, at least it sounded entertaining. The match was definitely interesting. Our bases went down so fast I got pretty scared. Kept trying to tell the allies to go the base. I think they were trying, but getting too damaged before they could get there. I decided to focus on the left base, where I ended up running into you a lot. I'm slowly collecting the Zero color schemes since I have trouble deciding. Got red, pink, blue, and basic so far. Next will be desert, then green! I find I'm often spending my free Zoid Gold on color schemes. Currently swapping them out every match or two. I'd also love the match~ It'd be nice to have one of my Zero running around. Still has that new shiny factor to me.
Also interested to see how Kay compares. With Sophia, it doesn't seem like the balancing makes it worth while to use compared to a dedicated stat pilot. I wonder if Kay is different?
Funny, I also encountered that Dimetrodon a few times! He'd just ram through the base over and over again. He was a pain to bother killing, and in the end the bases usually fall, so I eventually decided to ignore him and focus on enemy bases instead. Not much we could do.
Just got Zero to 35 and he's officially passed my Saber Tiger in all regards, besides that -10 range. Feels a little sad considering the 12 level deficiency, but he sure makes battling a breeze. Focusing on Player Levels at the time and just battling to battle. Thanks to the event my container bay is full of blue and purple containers. Kind of want to just buy them off cool down, but I know I'd get another!
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Post by Vig on Dec 21, 2017 0:46:03 GMT -5
Oh yea there wouldn't have been much left of Liger zero at all. And here's the match: db.tt/Ya4wANgPCx And wow I cannot believe we lost it! All 3 of your bases were down and none of ours even past the halfway mark. And amusingly speak of the devil I didn't remember but that as mentioned earlier pink Dimetrodon was on my side during our match! And was doing what it does best sitting in the bases thus why they went down so fast. Was even able to get an amusing commemorative photo with it at the end. I noticed you ran around in circles near me after being shot down a couple of times, were you circling me on your end? I get the feeling that sometimes the location of where a zoid lands might be different for each player. Lastly my intoxication is made obvious by the amount of walls I run into. You even bought the pink colour for Liger zero? LOL when are you going to bring that one out on to the battle field?, when feeling festive? I've done the same with Saber tiger though, pretty much got all the colours except for Green. Also Falcarius I received your kite today! Big tube it was quite a surprise, Thank you! I just wanted to ask too, I was going to add you as a friend on Zoids FOR But it says your last login day was 28 days ago is the name falcarius an old account or something? EDIT: Found our pink dimetrodon friend, s/he saw the defeat picture I posted.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Dec 21, 2017 1:24:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the match! Watching it reminded me of a few things. In particular being surprised I was hit by the CPC at the end! It has quite an invisible hit range. For a while off screen that Gunblaster was also running me off of every base I went near, like he didn't want any stray cats in his yard. I had to run back and forth shooting between the stone walls to get any damage on them. Your Zoid was in the right place, I just didn't want to be too annoying running circles around you every time. The answer: Run circles next to you. I tried to run to your Berserk Fuhrer right at the end, but ran out of time~ The pink liger was necessary! Bright colors look so dindgy in the hangar, and if I'm going to complete my Liger Zero Color Chart I need to know how they look out of the shade! Gold Zoids have the same problem. Gold Saix looks so awful in the hangar, but on the battlefield it's quite striking! (Though, the color chart still needs a few other updates, but I'll be excited to add FOR to it!) I plan to grab a gold Saber Tiger once I get the Iron Fin. It's a nice combo! Already took Pink!Zero out on the field. It's so obnoxiously bright. This is what would've happened to Liger if Bit lost that bet and it turned into a dressup doll. It won once and lost once. The red is also kind of obnoxious. I like it, but in the desert field, it's a bit bright for my eyes.
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Post by Vig on Dec 21, 2017 10:54:33 GMT -5
Haha first we had the Gorilla shooting Foxes trying to steal his chickens now we have Gunblaster shoooting at stray cats in his yard.
It's ok you can run in circles around me all you like I know it's friendly, unlike that obnoxious blue blade liger we sometimes encounter. Wow Liger zero has so many colors , funny they didn't choose the more well known colours, liger ex, midnight etc, though I guess they sorta did Liger Blue souga and Liger Hiou. Like how Shadow fox sort of has a Mirage fox color but not quite as white. I'll be curious to see how they implement Liger's changing armours now, assuming they will. I have also always admired the yellow Saber with The Iron fin, it's like the weapon was made for that color Saber. I just tend to be sticking loyal to the Schwarz variant. Lol , Mary champ. I shudder at the thought of Liger ending up in her hands. The Red and Black really makes Liger look not so friendly it's funny. It's like it becomes evil Liger.
And Lastly I got Kay to 10 Wins, Here is her 7 boxes of dialogue:
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Post by Hanyoutai on Dec 21, 2017 19:26:15 GMT -5
Did she seem useful as a pilot? Thanks for the screenies anyway!
That's one thing I like about FOR. While it'd be nice to have one, maybe two colors that were official, it's really exciting to see brand new color schemes. It was one thing I loved about Infinity. It had so many unique (if not very weird) colors. For Liger, I assume it'll be like other variations, and just be a new Zoid. It'll at least catch the Republic Zoids up to the Empire. Currently there are several more Empire Zoids in the game.
I wonder what the max player level is?
I'm very happy to have finally gotten Trinity. Hopefully I can get some levels for her, now~ I was very sad to realize that she doesn't actually give a speed bonus at base level. Stayed up for like an hour testing this, thinking it must surely be wrong, but her and Vance reach the same markers in the battles at the exact same second. Tested in the test level and in the desert field. I thought it'd at least be a 0.2 speed difference like the Saix. I'm guessing if it is a difference, it's .1, so not visible, even if running to the enemy base. Still, she's a pilot I've wanted since the start of the game, so I'm very excited to finally get her as a pilot. Especially from a container I expected a simple rare weapon from~
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Post by Vig on Dec 21, 2017 20:30:20 GMT -5
Kay as a level 1 pilot was hard to notice any difference, I did kinda notice I didn't seem to be going as well using her, but then again level 1 when my other pilots are much higher so that's to be expected. Congrats on Trinity! Hah so no difference at all at level 1, and to think I was faster with her was just all in my head haha. Thankfully I got her at level 3 now, received two levels at once which was strange, was very happy though.
I will bet Player levels go to 99 like ex levels. Does player level mean anything though?, does it increase all your stats, make you stronger etc?? Or is it just to show how experienced one is and to receive truckloads of memory chips.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Dec 24, 2017 14:47:34 GMT -5
Nice! At level 3, I would assume she's maybe .3 speed boost? So maybe a bit faster than the Saix difference? But that's just a blind guess, of course. There's no bonus to having a higher player level, it's just the prizes. They are quite good prizes though, and it's nice to have a 'point' to battling even if you lose. It's a nice feeling to be able to upgrade any Zoid I get to the first level, at least. Think I've got 50+ of some chips now?
Had some very nice battles last night. Both in my Zero. In the first, we started with a Zero, Command Wolf, and Gordos ally. Guess the Zero didn't like being told to stick together, because he immediately disconnected after. We still won, even against a couple Bladeys. Those lucky early kills, and with good teamwork. Everyone stayed together like they were told to, and someone would always correct anyone straying from the pack if they weren't paying attention to other enemies in the area.
In the second, we had my Zero, a Geno Saurer, a Gordos, and a Command Wolf again. We were against 3 Blade Ligers and a Dark Horn. For whatever freaking reason we not only won, but by a landslide, with like 5x kills. I couldn't believe it. They were storming our base at the end and we were picking them off left and right. They were all around 3k+ LP, too, with at least one Super Liger. At least part of it was thanks to the Dark Horn that kept trying to take us on. Don't play PVP in a slow dark horn. Just don't.
EDIT: Also, that Gunblaster glitch is nasty. Just had one try to use it to destroy our HQ. Thankfully the Shield Liger's energy shield shut it off, and it miscalculated its charge, so it was too far away.
Also just had a frustrating match where a Blade Liger REPEATEDLY threw the match. He'd run straight into the enemy horde when we had 1 extra kill. I'd believe one or two mistakes, but he did this 4 times. The last one being in the last 19 seconds when literally all we had to do was sit there and shoot the Mad Thunder.
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Post by Vig on Dec 26, 2017 7:13:18 GMT -5
Chips are nice yet abundant as you said, We really need is Memory Banks! or any upgraded zoid is stuck at that first upgrade They don't hand them out as readily.
The player levelling system makes losing less painful that's for sure, well that and the bonuses for winning medals in the table at the end. I've lost matches before and only lost like two points thanks to receiving 3 gold medals. Was definfitely a good call to reward players for how well they play. It's like now one way to lose less points if guaranteed to lose is just to not die and start killing small zoids, can still win a couple of medals and make it not quite so painful. And even draws now we can get something. If it looks like a draw with only a couple of minutes left it's not unusual for both teams to just chill out at their own bases and wait for the countdown.
Hahah I still need to get my Darkhorns 30 missions sometime, yea I'd be base targeting. Wow I've been seeing a lot of destroyer matches recently, lots Cat fights , Blade ligers , Saber Tigers and Liger Zero's. I had one match where it was that combination and just one Gorilla, it was a blood bath. Was on edge the whole time. And that one match you saw me post against 4 Blade Ligers was terryfying, thankfully because they were equipped with pvp they had a lot of difficulty bringing down bases, I'm mainly focues on bases whilst My Liger zero is still relatively weak, And any Pvp I do is done with extreme caution. Sometimes I feel the Liger Zero initimidation factor alone is enough to scare away players from a base, (that berserk Fuhrer running around behind the wall for example).
I saw that Gunblaster Glitch! So what is the go with it exactly, Gunblaster fires and it keeps on firing and doesn't go away? Thus deliberately left infront of a base? Shield Liger saves the day yet again. I'm always happy to have a shield liger on the team.
LOL Overconfident Blade ligers, I've had a few of those. A few "ダメ" Stamps wouldn't do the trick?
EDIT: Totally forgot to mention of course the latest update! 6 Minute containers for winning in battle mode that only cost a zoids buck to open, Sure not much metal seems to come from them but Weapon ex levels are going to go through the roof! On the other hand Gacha containers seem to have more metal than usual.
THat and the New Deathstinger event is extremely easy on easy, destroy the bases before Deathstinger even awakens and it's a victory though on the other hand Hard is bloody hard! The Molga's missiles take off a lot of health. Probably not going to bother too much with it though given these 6 minute containers are here.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Dec 26, 2017 9:53:37 GMT -5
Yeah, and now it seems the banks given out are largely tied to cash. Thankfully I don't need many, but those new sets are very tempting. Do you get the corresponding weapon, or is it random? I'd be very tempted to get the Gun Blaster one, even though I already have a gunblaster... Hrmm... Would probably use the metal to upgrade Liger Zero some more. Could upgrade the new Gunblaster right away and then just level it up in my free time...
30 wins in a Dark Horn is gonna be scary! It's a tough Zoid, technically speaking, but with its slow speed most cats look at it like dinner. Probably not a bad idea for the Zero, until it's a higher level. Its intimidation factor does help, usually nothing but a bladey, zero, or fully upgraded Saber will chase it.
The Bladey was spammed with every relevant stamp possible when he left the base, but he ignored them, ran straight to the enemy team, and died. Thankfully don't encounter many of those. Though I do keep encountering one VERY overconfident red Zero who keeps getting asploded because he doesn't stay close to base/wall cover. Poor guy is so confident that he's on top of the world.
The 6 minute containers are amazing. I'm forcing myself to go to bed after this post, or I'll stay up all night trying to get more of them. Pretty much the same on the Death Stinger event, I don't see myself being motivated to play it in place of VS Mode. Its been a blast. I really like the randomized fields, too.
I foresee myself spending a lot of time on FOR over the new year...
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Post by Vig on Dec 27, 2017 11:37:13 GMT -5
Seeing as I wanted a Gunblaster eventually anyway I just bought a Gun Blaster set and it was a fantastic container! It did indeed have Gunblasters rolling cannon weapon whether that was a coincidence or not I don't know. The vast amount of chips,banks and 25000 metal is certainly nice! But it also had Liger zero's strike laser claw! which is over 500 damage when leveled to 20 but has a cost of 8 which for my non upgraded Liger zero which aint so convenient but one day!and 3 pilots (one new). Did you have Saori Crystals story already Falcarius?? I wish we could buy just the special weapon, I would Loooooove Lightning saix's back mounted weapon. It looks to be the Iron Fin of Lightning saix but stronger!
And these daily missions are great, quite generous really, 5 battles every day and you'll end up totalling 110000metal and 1150ZG. That plus the 6 minute containers people have been flocking to battle mode, I haven't had any problems at all with player numbers for matches. Will be a fun new years period indeed.
And I noticed you having fun with the newly acquired mines in the pink Liger, Congrats on that! I had to laugh when we had mines blocking both entrances to the walled area, haha that entire team were on steroids anyway, they were tough to bring down. Must have been fully levelled most of them.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Dec 27, 2017 19:58:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the info! Picked up the Gunblaster kit and only got the Monkey Missiles and Dean, sadly. Nothing new. But at least I got the rolling cannon~ Used the metal to upgrade Zero to 48. And wow, that's quite a lot of damage! I've been smacked by a few of those claws, but they're usually easy to dodge. Still, that damage. Agree on the weapon thing! I think Saix comes with the speed though, not the gun? The metal earning right now is insane. The minimum metal I've gotten is 50. When I got 4 individual scores, I got over 320 metal for one battle! I've taken Liger up 3 levels in one day. With the daily missions and 6 minute containers, you'll probably be able to fully level up Gunblaster! Yeah, I expected the fight to go better given what Zoids we had, but man, those Ligers and Gun Blaster were mowing us down left and right. I quite enjoyed running out of the ruins and slaughtering that one poor guy so fast, though. Even if it was promptly met with another death. It was a very fun fight nonetheless. I equipped my Zero with the Long Buster Cannon and two 35mms to run some hard co-op modes. Accidentally entered battle with it, and when I realized my heart sank so fast. A Blade Liger Mirage confronted me at the base, but I was the only one there with the Command Wolf. He ran up in my face and dropped like a sack of potatoes. I was amazed. He came back again, and died a second time. He finally won the 3rd confrontation, but after a few go arounds, he was terrified of me. He kept such a wide distance that I could dodge all of his attacks, and occasionally hit him when I was lucky. Definitely wouldn't use it again because a careful Zoid will avoid most shots, but it was hilarious to do so well in an ill-equipped battle. He pretty much won the fight for us because he came back and died so many times before he smartened up. EDIT: Yes! We also got a new Web Comic chapter! Complete with Killer Molgas and scraggly Command Wufs!
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