TV shows Zoids Wild & Zoids Wild Zero thoughts ?

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Which show do you guys prefer?

I personally enjoy Zoids Wild Zero more (kinda reminds me of Chaotic Century in a way), although Zoids Wild was fun in its own right. 

[Hanyoutai]

I enjoy them for different reasons. I think ZWZ has much more rewatchability and amazing battles almost every episode. I also feel that its writing was a major weakpoint. You never really get to 'know' the characters. They're static from the first time they appear on screen until the end of the show, with no real change to their character. I was certain Sally would be more relevant later, but she remained the "LEO!!!" loudspeaker for the rest of the show...

This is where I prefer Wild. The way they handled grief was good, and it was not reserved exclusively as a "taunt to tick off the hero" trope. The characters remained relevant to everyone's feelings. It also handled threat a lot better, I felt. The bad guy does things that impact the good guys right now, not in the distant past, and not to the side characters people don't really care about... As well as in ways that aren't magically wished away. They can't undo what Gallagher's influence caused, for anyone.

We came out the other side of Zero with everything relatively ok (as far as main characters go) and with no real loss (outside of things that barely matter to the viewer's emotions, like the science ships). Zero was afraid to take the steps that Wild, the show for a younger audience was able to, and that was to bestow permanency to consequences. I would love to have seen Zero take more liberties with removing characters.

Zero definitely sells the imminent doom feeling of battles, though. The perspective for the larger Zoids is choreographed amazingly well, and there's so many scenes where you just think "Wow!" It really impressed, and I hope we get more like it!

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The thing is, I didn't like how Zoids Wild ended. It felt rushed and anticlimactic.
And we didn't get to see Quade again.

[Hanyoutai]

Ahh, if you watched the Netflix version of Wild, I highly recommend looking into the Hong Kong dub and watching at least the last episode. The final episode on netflix cut over two and a half minutes of video, which included some very major battle stuff and the entire end credits. Everything about how the characters ended up post-series was cut... So that might be part of why it feels so abrupt.

Though, it definitely didn't have the 'final battle' feel that the other series did. I think it is the same in Zero. It was... strange, to have the bad guy defeated with the hero Zoid not even on screen. Interesting, but... it did not feel as good as, say, Omega Rex's arc.

[Snowflake]

Major cuts? I guess even in the Netflix era, nothing changes...

[Hanyoutai]

Yeah, it was... a lot. They cut out almost all of Team Supreme's involvement, the fate of multiple Zoids (which included the conclusion of one of the final battles), the end credits which showed where all the characters went after the battle, and what really happened to conclude the final boss fight.

[JES]

I've been watching Zoids Wild Zero on Daily Motion, because I don't know when/if the series will take it's rightful place on Toonami, since Hasbro and Netflix appears to be the companies with the licenses. Hopefully if Toonami does air it, they'll keep the opening and closing songs, which I've come to like.

As of Episode 11, so far, I've really liked the series. They show off the new Zoids in a good light, which I expect since this is supposed to sell the toys, right? At first, I didn't like them blowing up Planet Zi (you maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!!-I love using that line, and Planet of the Apes!), but understand that this was a necessary plot device. I still have to wonder if Sally Land's story was inaccurate, and if she was referencing the events leading up to Genesis (in which case, Zi is still out there, just not quite habitable for 10,000 years, give or take).

Speaking of inaccuracies, the writers also clearly do not understand math, since there is no way that the events leading up to Wild or the entire Zoids series took place 100 years ago. Cold Sleep (suspended animation) is mentioned in Episode 2 I think with regards to the return trip, meaning that it wasn't instantaneous. Even if it took only 10 years to build their arks (more like 50, but I'll be generous), the trip to Zi, if I'm generous, would take at least 75 years at assuming that they had the same capabilities of an Intrepid class from Star Trek. Yes, I'm shamelessly plugging for Star Trek, because the USS Voyager had to make a similar journey. And it's more like 4,275 light years according to a calculator, but I'm being fair, and using the estimated time it would have taken the USS Voyager to take, since she also had to go from the Delta Quadrant to the Solar System, 70,000 light years away.

And then the colonists spend at least 200 years on Zi, probably 300 years, but again, I'm being generous. And maybe they managed to complete their fleet of arks in another 10 years. And then they had to go on a 75 year journey back to Earth, assuming that they didn't make any breakthroughs in FTL (which they apparently didn't enough, seeing as how Cold Sleep was still necessary). Therefore, Zoids Wild Zero couldn't take place in the 22nd Century. More like the late 24th Century at the earliest. By the way, if they had to use slower than light technology available to them now, it would take more like 2,214,000 years to make the journey at 99 percept the speed of light (by which time, there'd be no trace of human civilization left, which would vanish before 10,000 years). So you do have to assume that humans made some breakthroughs in faster than light travel, and then some.

Also, what happened to the Zoids on Zi? Did they leave them behind? Did they just euthanize them en mass? From some of the dialogue, it's mentioned that they were apparently still alive shortly before they had to leave? Aren't Zoids supposed to be like family? Couldn't they fit some of them in those massive arks? Were those arks really big enough to evacuate the entire population of Zi, or just an elite few? Did they just take their Cores? Then why have to dig out those fossils, when the Cores could be used to build new Zoids, since they hold all of their memories and such? Since it's ultimately a kid's show, I'm not surprised that they didn't explain any of this.

I do like how the series is based in former New York (place of my birth), and the constant references to the 21st Century. It's like the series is exploring the past which is leading up to the events of the present. And the CGI and animation is what I've come to expect from a Zoid series, and then some. I'll often pause and rewind in order to admire the modeling work. And even if the background behind the premise doesn't make that much sense, I still love that we have the first dubbed Zoids series in 15 years.


Maybe the plot is a little to much like Chaotic Century/New Battle Story, but I don't mind at all.

Bottom line is I'm Hasbro going to start releasing Zoids from Zero? I wonder if I should paint Beast Liger? Maybe he'd look good in blue.