New ZW Leaks?

[Darth Escargot]

I'm not starting separate threads for these two because I'm really not sure what we're looking at here, but someone on Youtube mentioned a new "Godzilla" and a "Mammoth" type ZW model in my comments earlier today, and now these have materialized on Facebook. I don't have any info other than that these pictures exist and the mammoth has visible ZW-style caps, so it looks pretty real, but I dunno about the Zilla.

[Darth Escargot]

Reverse Google search only finds the pictures posted on this message board: bbs.ruliweb.com/news/board/1002/read/2205198

The OP says they were found on someone's personal Twitter. I really don't know here, the biped could be a custom, but I definitely don't recognize any of the parts on the mammoth.

[bladeligerzero94]

These look fanmade. Maybe we will see new information for these kits at the Wonder Festival 2020 Winter event this Sunday.

[Snowflake]

Huh.... I don't know WHAT to think. The dino looks like a Wild version of King Gojulas, but in terms of its overall styling? It doesn't even look like a Zoid.
Whereas the mammoth looks squarely like a Hasbro creation.. Ugly, hollow, clumsy, inappropriate use of what looks like scrunchy accordion heat piping for the tusks, weird split-visor eyes... The rear legs are straight-up shaped wrong, but the visible hollow parts definitely reek of clumsy Hasbro designing. That said, the trunk and front legs look like really familiar parts, so I would believe this was a custom.

[Darth Escargot]

Feb 7, 2020 18:02:25 GMT -5 Snowflake said:

Huh.... I don't know WHAT to think. The dino looks like a Wild version of King Gojulas, but in terms of its overall styling? It doesn't even look like a Zoid.
Whereas the mammoth looks squarely like a Hasbro creation.. Ugly, hollow, clumsy, inappropriate use of what looks like scrunchy accordion heat piping for the tusks, weird split-visor eyes... The rear legs are straight-up shaped wrong, but the visible hollow parts definitely reek of clumsy Hasbro designing. That said, the trunk and front legs look like really familiar parts, so I would believe this was a custom.

The feet on the Zilla look very zoidy and there's clearly visible bone parts like on a ZW kit, but that doesn't mean it's not a custom. It's also out of focus in weird places that make it look more like it's photoshopped or something, plus the pictures look like they were taken in someone's home photo booth. I really have no idea.

Now that you mention it, the hollow parts on the mammoth also reveal that there's no bone structure, which is very unlikely for a ZW model.

[Hanyoutai]

These originally surfaced on Twitter. It's not so different from people posting leaks on facebook. Although the booth did resemble a Japanese customizers setup, they denied having made these, and with a basic white box, it's what most people would be able to throw together in short time. Most people who deal in developing the kits probably don't have professional photography setups, and most of the leaks we've gotten have been potato quality.

The parts being recognized I suspect are the Mammoth's lower leg armor, which is very similar, but not quite the same. I couldn't identify any parts as belonging to other Zoids, but if someone recognizes them, please let us know! The mammoth not having a bone structure gives me great pause as well, though, admittedly. The hollow legs affect most ZW kits. Most of them are black bases, so it doesn't stand out nearly as bad as it does on the white.

If I had to guess the distortion is from the images being stretched manually instead of using an actual resizing tool. This is a stretched version of the Zilla image, since it seemed the face was unnaturally squished:



Getting to the more interesting stuff; the reason these are being given so much consideration is because the Zilla is really close to the new XXL scale mystery Zoid that was featured in CoroCoro's bonus poster. More or less everything lines up, aside from the color. The weird eyes are also a distinguished feature, having a weird holey texture that is present on both the Zilla and the Mammoth.

The feet on the Zilla are pretty close to the design aesthetic used for the Genospino, and the Mammoth uses the new style of caps (though to be fair, those could be lifted from Drei Panther). The general consensus so far is that with the new eye/visor style, there may be a new faction coming up. That faction may deviate from the bone structure, to some extent. Perhaps more man made Zoids? But it may not be 100% necessary for them to stick to the bone rule for earlier Wild kits.

All of that isn't to say that these aren't customs, or that they're verified leaks, but there's a lot to mull over. I'm not really fond of the design aesthetics either, not gonna lie. Would hope for a better artistic direction, but sometimes these things happen.

Sorry this got super wordy, but this is the first time we've seen "leaks" of this format. There's been a lot of interesting discussion about them so far that was worth sharing.

[Darth Escargot]

Those are all interesting observations, Hanyoutai, not what I'd call a wordy post, heh.

The biggest positive for me if these are real is that the tail on the Zilla looks to be properly jointed. It actually vaguely reminds me of King G's tail. Maybe we'll finally see a bit more advanced engineering now.

[Snowflake]

well, that is clearly the one on the bonus poster. What a... monstrosity.

[Hanyoutai]

Agreed on the tail. That seems to be the best part of these kits. Can't help but think the Zilla would look better if you replaced the head with one of the rexs, though. That head just doesn't do it for me. Looks like a kids monster toy, not a Zoid. I kinda dig the guns for the back, though. Not their design necessarily, but the setup along the spine. The mammoth is just... a total, 100% bust for me though. Gonna pass on that one. Might get the Zilla depending on size, cause I've not got any model kits of XL size Zoids yet.

[prime60038]

That Mammoth is a must have for me, the Zilla i will probably pass up unless it has electronic sounds.

[Maethius]

I'm wondering about the odd structure on the back of the mammoth... it looks incomplete, doesn't it?

[dchan]

Feb 23, 2020 11:55:44 GMT -5 Maethius said:

I'm wondering about the odd structure on the back of the mammoth... it looks incomplete, doesn't it?

Yeah definitely does. I wonder if more light will be shed on these. Nice sleuth work all! Interested in the Godzilla one, as strange as it looks so far.

[Phenotype]

Feb 8, 2020 10:08:39 GMT -5 Hanyoutai said:

Most people who deal in developing the kits probably don't have professional photography setups, and most of the leaks we've gotten have been potato quality.

This made sense 15-20 years ago, but these days even the cheapest smartphone can take high quality photos, yet toy leaks still continue to look like they were taken decades ago. It must be deliberate.

the reason these are being given so much consideration is because the Zilla is really close to the new XXL scale mystery Zoid that was featured in CoroCoro's bonus poster. More or less everything lines up, aside from the color.

I mean, it's clearly the exact same head. The shape of the nose and chin are identical. The guns/pistons on its back are identical. I think we can safely say the Zilla one is real.

I don't know who remembers this or was even around at the time was but around 2002 I was emailed a large set of pictures, probably about 10-15 photos, that showed Zoids that wouldn't end up being released for over a year. Gravity Saix, Jet Falcon, and way more I can't remember.

[Hanyoutai]

This made sense 15-20 years ago, but these days even the cheapest smartphone can take high quality photos, yet toy leaks still continue to look like they were taken decades ago. It must be deliberate.

I wasn't talking about the photograph quality when I said professional photography setups, I was talking about the backdrop. There was some debate on Twitter because it looked like a known customizers setup. I was saying that a white square backdrop is exactly what anyone without a professional setup would throw together, as you can pick up white paper or posterboard for a couple bucks at most stores. Hell, it's what I use when I photograph Zoids.

There's no doubt that the Zilla appears to be the CoroCoro teaser. Someone on Facebook also dropped a name that I won't attempt to spell from memory for these leaks, and the Zilla's appeared recently on a trademark archive, registered by TakaraTomy. So these Zoids seem more or less confirmed. Their noise is being overridden atm by Liger The Arthur, though~

[Maethius]

Hm. Looking at the tweet pic now, it looks like the 'Zilla Zoid without the armor.