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Post by Xehn on May 24, 2007 15:35:14 GMT -5
Victory Rex? wtf?
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Post by ScissorBreaker on May 24, 2007 17:36:28 GMT -5
Ah, but reMember, the entire OJR Helic windup line had no mouth... ...but guysack has a mouth! (even if it's not attached to the cockpit, but the little pinchy things are there!) Ok, so I might like a kotobukiya redler. and a guysack. but I STILL say that orudios takes the cake. C'mon! A super poseable, red-white-blue-and-gold (with a sharp blade, mind you!) Pegasus!?! SQUEEEE!!!!! (yes, I know they won't, but I lahk mah dreams, too, dangit!!!)
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Post by Xehn on May 24, 2007 18:01:34 GMT -5
*technically* those are just fangs. >>;
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Post by ScissorBreaker on May 24, 2007 18:34:14 GMT -5
ah. sorry. *bricks head for studying entomology and not using the word 'mandibles;*
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Post by D00mLiger on May 24, 2007 18:40:21 GMT -5
But scorpions don't really have fangs, do they? Aren't the more pincer-type setups? Bah. Call me a heretic, but there are -many- more designs I'd like to see done (HMM or otherwise) before an Orudios. It's a nifty zoid 'n everything, but a tad overrated, IMO. Gungy and Gildy (yes, GilDY, I prefer the Genesis colors *flees mob*) beat it out for coolness. Stance-changing chrome dragon (with translucent red wings) go!
Oh, and Orudios ain't a Pegasus-type. See Orudios/Evil Pegasus are alicorns, I believe. The horn gives it away, and unicorns don't have wings (although they (unicorns) do have lions' tails.)
[Oh, and Victory Rex is an insanely ugly game-only theropod Genothingy. I think it's in the same grouping (gamewise) as Trinity Liger. Either way, it's got a face not even Picasso's mother could love. Ugh!]
The HMM line could be a really sweet way to rerelease some old designs, methinks. Especially with the Gradeups, who all had kinda fantasy-ish, curvy, pointy, chomey looks, breaking the whole 'Zoid asthetic,' giving them the Koto treatment, which seems to make things seem much grittier, mechanical, and 'real,' would be interesting. How to make them fit the HMM crowd and design philosophy, but keeping, say, Gungy or Battle Cougar looking like themselves (I'm also hoping for an HMM Battle Cougar.)
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Post by ScissorBreaker on May 24, 2007 18:53:51 GMT -5
exactly waht I was thinking (with the grade ups) It'd be cool if they made little kotobukiya grade ups to go with them!
It's probably because I still get a buzz everytime I think about how I own a zoid that's worth $500 and I got it for $25 that I like orudios so much...he's my only OJR.
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Post by Xehn on May 24, 2007 19:08:18 GMT -5
My only OthingyR is Garius. He's OAR. So... older than your Ordy. :D
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Post by ScissorBreaker on May 24, 2007 19:22:39 GMT -5
yeah but...kotobukiya? X.X
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Post by Tilly on May 24, 2007 19:32:06 GMT -5
I hate the eyelash-horns with a burning passion, but the Gildy colors themselves are awesome in entirely different ways to the Gilvy set. Pearl? Clear blue? Mk.II tinges but with more regal class and less 80s? Win.
Tomy calls Orudios a pegasus, regardless of whether it's properly an alicorn or not...just like Gilvy's not really a wyvern.
Rereleasing old-school Zoids in HMM form but not the originals would be an act of abject cruelty, far as I'm concerned, given that most of the reason I LIKE the larger gradeups is the mechanics...Gilvy has nice lines, but it'd be rather underwhelming static. Now, some of the smaller ones would be a different story (hi Kingliger), but I highly doubt Kotobukiya would even consider most of them. They're too obscure...they're focusing on fan favorites.
...also, what is with you people and Guysacks? Eesh.
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Post by D00mLiger on May 24, 2007 20:11:16 GMT -5
I dunno. As time goes on I like the Genesis-horns more and more. Rerelease purism my foot. True, Gildy would be kinda a letdown without moving, but other stuff, like Gungy, Kingbaron/liger, and Battle Cougar? That'd be a definite plus, to say nothing of Godkaiser and Houndsoldier. (Personally I'm more for posability over movement unless it's something that needs it, like Gildy or E-Liger or Decalto. Essentially, if it doesn't do anything remarkable or unique while moving, I'd go posable.) Although Gungy might just be a candidate, seeing as there was a clamor for a rerelease and it commands outrageous eBay prices... then again, HMM isn't standard release, but it's better than nothing at all (seeingas that's the alternative Gungy-wise.)
I honestly don't know why I'm on such a Guysack-trip. It seems like a really cool little scorpion (that I have yet to get myself, admittedly), and a six-legged Koto would be a thing to see indeed. *and I want it so badly* Sorry if I got too carried-away.
I hope they announce the release date for Geno/Bladey soon, otherwise we're just going to keep generating ideas...
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Post by Snowflake on May 24, 2007 20:32:09 GMT -5
AHEM! *puts on her teacher hat* Scorpions are chelicerates, as such they have chelicera, the familiar downward-pointing fangs found on spiders, horseshoe crabs, etc. Some chelicerates have them arranged as a pincer like guysack, but scorpions generally don't. They're more about sucking than chewing, though there's a variety of types. A unicorn is an even-toed ungulate with a twisted horn, cloven hooves, and tufted tail and chin. Quite different from a horse. An alicorn is a winged unicorn, a pegasus is a winged horse, and a ~unisus~ is a winged horse with a unicorn horn, presumably the union of a pegasus and a unicorn, or maybe an alicorn and a horse. there. That was your lesson for the day. Oh, and I love these HMMs so much.... I want a bearfighter!!!
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Post by Tilly on May 24, 2007 22:25:47 GMT -5
It's not a matter of pure anything or that the old ones look "evil" or whatever, it's that they break the flow of the design to me - the masers follow the head in a similar curve to the face in reverse, the tridents just...go dangling back like a bad extension of the head. They make it too swept back and take attention away from the best parts of the cockpit.
I'd like them on a new dragon design that suited them better. They're not bad horns. I just really, really hate them on Gildy.
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Post by D00mLiger on May 25, 2007 7:06:02 GMT -5
But for some reason, after I saw them in Genesis, and saw them on a model Gildy, I thought they looked neat. Not neat enough to manhandle the Gilvy horns off -my- Gildy, but neat nonetheless. The look kinda like antlers, and Nidhogg has antlers (methinks) and thus I justify their nifty quotient. I haven't seen them on a Gildy in person, though, so that's still up in the air. Stuff looks at lot different in person.
But a new dragon design would probably make them look better, seeing as it wouldn't be new horns on a 15+ summodd year-old design. And a new dragon design would be good anyway. We haven't had one since Dekalt/Decalto, but they're fusions, and my quest for an NJR Parablade has been dry. Erk.
And thank you, Snowflake, for that bit of informing that did -not- make me remember I have a biology exam in three hours. You're a saint.
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Post by Maethius on May 25, 2007 12:44:33 GMT -5
I think OJR Gilvy would be an incredible model (though it would cost $100) if it was re-engineered with the calibre of work we've seen in the HMM line. It wouldn't be identical, it would have a jointed neck and tail, articulated claws and wings, perhaps a greater wingspan by a little. The lines and curves would be sleeker, less bulky but still decidedly menacing. The old horns would not remain as we see them now but would be replaced with sharp, forward arcing horns similar perhaps to flipping the Gildy horns around. Same with the tail... "feelers" replaced with true blades. The gun systems in the neck and wings, if the trend continued, would be more robust. Look at the difference between TT's Genosaurer cannon and the HMM one... it's got a larger bore and looks far deadlier. It would have far more detailed vents and armor structures... and try to envision the new head, cockpit and jaws.
My, oh, my... I think I'm depressing myself!
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Post by Snowflake on May 25, 2007 18:09:19 GMT -5
... I put my Gilvader's horns backwards. They look grand!
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