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Post by Andy F² on Jul 7, 2006 4:39:56 GMT -5
Credit goes (once again) to Zoids Poison.  Redhorn:  OJR Gojulas MKII Ltd:  Bird Thing:  Iron Kong PK  No, I don't know why the birdy has Fire Phoenix wings and a gravity Ptera's head. I hope it's just a prototype. |
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Post by Miel on Jul 7, 2006 6:21:27 GMT -5
Ooh! Cool. I especially like GojulasMKII. Looks like Gojulas the Ogre though. OT:Squee! I'm posting this from a Blackberry!  |
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Post by mrblack658 on Jul 7, 2006 6:24:49 GMT -5
gojulas the ogre is the gojulas mk2...well it was originally.
they changed it though.
BIL
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Post by Colodie on Jul 7, 2006 7:06:25 GMT -5
Whoo, at least the line still lives.
I've heard rumors of the Red Horn, so yay.
Don't know about the Gojulas. it's nice, yeah, but a couple new parts to something that was released a few months ago, I don't know.
The bird thing, I shall reserve judgement on.
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Post by Andy F² on Jul 7, 2006 7:34:14 GMT -5
Don't know about the Gojulas. it's nice, yeah, but a couple new parts to something that was released a few months ago, I don't know. It seems to be a sad reflection on how cheap Tomy Takara has recently become. Since the late part of Genesis they've milked everything for all its worth (just how many versions of Murasame have there been? 9? 10?). They reused entire sprues constantly throughout the first wave of NBZs, released Brave Jaguar and Raptor Jaguar twice, released both sets of 3 with minor colour alterations, and now they're releasing Gojulas again (that's not to say I don't like him, he's my fav out of all the NBZs so far). LBZ Iron Kong isn't even out yet and already they've come up with another way to release him! I reckon we'll see some more sprue reusing in this wave too. |
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Post by Phenotype on Jul 7, 2006 8:20:50 GMT -5
Hrm, are they still planning to do the regular LB Iron Kong and then follow that with PK? I surprised they're doing the OJR MkII LTD and not Gojulas the Orge, at least we get a proper CP-10 this time. Also, that bird thing doesn't have Gravity Ptera's head, it actually looks more like Mosasledge's head but I'm pretty sure it's a new design. Odd that they would use the inner part of Fire Phoenix's wings but I don't think it's a prototype because they seem to have changed the mold, the wings now have a hole in them to connect them to the body.
-Phenotype
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Post by Xehn on Jul 7, 2006 8:24:58 GMT -5
...Well. I'm kinda disappointed...
But what I want to know is, why didn't they use those cannons on the first Gojulas?
Andy, what if that is the LB Kong they'e releasing? I'd say the PK has much more legend status than the normal Kong, anyway...
The bird's unique... to say the least. I don't mind the re-used Phoenix wings, since they look different like that, kinda cool, too.
If it's not a prototype, what is it? 'cause it has Unenlagia hands for feet!
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Post by Andy F² on Jul 7, 2006 8:43:41 GMT -5
Also, that bird thing doesn't have Gravity Ptera's head, it actually looks more like Mosasledge's head but I'm pretty sure it's a new design. The more I look at it, the more it seems to be a hybrid of the two. It looks longer than mosasledge's and shares the cockpit shape but you're right that it's not a straight part-reuse. You mentioned a while back that the Gojulas's cannons are slightly remodeled versions of something, perhaps it's the same case here. Odd that they would use the inner part of Fire Phoenix's wings but I don't think it's a prototype because they seem to have changed the mold, the wings now have a hole in them to connect them to the body. -Phenotype Could be drilled? |
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Post by Xehn on Jul 7, 2006 8:52:25 GMT -5
I've got my Gravity Ptera here. It's not his head. Gravity Ptera does not have teeth. he has odd wave-ey jaws. He also has cheek sections that this doesn't have. This one has blox pegs on the sides of his head...
Actually, it looks like neither of the two, or a fusion, maybe.
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Post by Lionel on Jul 7, 2006 9:24:21 GMT -5
Well, interesting, and good to see the line is not dead. But again, those are not real Zoids.
By the way, the bird seems to be a ptero type, and is the following of the dino line (same colour and style).
Lionel
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Post by Phenotype on Jul 7, 2006 9:46:17 GMT -5
The more I look at it, the more it seems to be a hybrid of the two. It looks longer than mosasledge's and shares the cockpit shape but you're right that it's not a straight part-reuse. You mentioned a while back that the Gojulas's cannons are slightly remodeled versions of something, perhaps it's the same case here. Yeah, LB Gojulas's tail guns are remolded from Unenlagia's arm guns. Also, Kaelin D. pointed out that the bird Zoid seems to have Unenlagia's hands for feet. Either it is a some crazy kitbashed prototype or they've gotten so cheap that they're just remolded parts instead of making new ones. -Phenotype |
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Post by gunliger on Jul 7, 2006 10:18:32 GMT -5
well if Genisis was as big of a flop as I hear you guys making it out to be, they may have to resort to remolding in order to save on costs. It's either that or they let the zoids line die.
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Post by Phenotype on Jul 7, 2006 10:54:07 GMT -5
I don't believe all that crap people say about Genesis being a "flop" and honestly I'm getting pretty tired of hearing it. The only thing they can even back up this claim with is that after the series ended many kits were being sold for a fraction of the price, apparently some Japanese magazine said Bio Zoids weren't selling well or something, and the Genesis Redler being removed from the line. Well let me tell you why this means nothing, anytime a series ends and they have leftover stock they reduce prices to try and get them off the shelves before the next series comes out. Anytime a Transformers series ends in the US they put the remainding figures on clearance, does that mean RID, Armada, or Energon were all flops because they had figures put on clearance? Absolutely not. Also, I would like to see this "japanese magazine" as proof, and even if Bio Zoids weren't selling well that doesn't mean the series was a flop. Genesis is the first Zoids series to get a 50 episode run, which IMO is quite an accomplishment. As for the Redler, we honestly don't know what happened there and I don't think it's fair to run around making assumptions that the series flopped just because they decided not to release that kit as part of the main line.
Several Gundam shows have been cut short from the intended episode run because the series was performing badly and many of them are still not considered "flops". Perhaps Genesis didn't do as well as Tomy had hoped, maybe it did, we really don't know but I don't think anybody should be calling it a "flop". If it was a flop they wouldn't have let all 50 episodes air, remember Fuzors in the US? Now that was a flop.
gunliger - None of these comments are directed at you, they're directed at the ones who perpetuate this unsubstantiated rumor that Genesis flopped.
-Phenotype
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Post by Xehn on Jul 7, 2006 11:04:15 GMT -5
With sprue re-use, I think re-using the legs is excused, because the two types have so many ways to be used.
LB Murasame's use of Stegoganzer's feet isn't just a sprue re-use, because there were parts on the sprue with them, and they're not with the dinos.
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Post by vishus on Jul 7, 2006 11:29:08 GMT -5
Wow! Thanks for posting these, Andy. I've been waiting to get a good look at these. Redhorn - Fairly cool, head looks a little disproportionate. Maybe it's just me though. Gojulas MKII - Again, kinda cool. BUT, been there, done that  Many other types of legend Zoids deserve to be done before they start getting into variants. Pterathing - Bleeecchh  IK PK - JACKPOT! Must have one.......MUST!  |
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Many other types of legend Zoids deserve to be done before they start getting into variants.
