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Post by Cheetah on Dec 19, 2003 16:57:28 GMT -5
Personally I like Fuzors more than New Century Zero (or whatever it's called). But Chaotic Century is definitely my favorite. *wonders if he'll be lynch-mobbed for considering Zoids and Guardian Force one seires* c.c
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Post by Wolfy on Dec 19, 2003 19:21:29 GMT -5
It's just something true zoid fans are going to have to deal with. We dont run cartoon network, and we can't tell the creators to do what we say, so hey, I say we just chill, and watch it... but i still think it bombed.
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Post by Siegfried on Dec 19, 2003 21:35:41 GMT -5
Count me in with the crowd that likes Chaotic Century the most (in particular, Guardian Force). I guess I just really liked the characters and the plot. New Century Zero is okay, I think. The characters were all right, although Harry tended to bug me the longer he was around. The plot was quite a bit less-developed, but it was still enjoyable a good amount of the time.
I don't really like Fuzors all that much. I know it's aimed at an audience younger than me but so is X-Men: Evolution, and I enjoy that show. To me, Fuzors seems to suffer from pretty bad dialog and a reliance on gimmicks. I keep watching in the hopes that it'll get better, but I was quite disappointed with the previous episode.
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Post by Wolfy on Dec 19, 2003 21:45:49 GMT -5
The one thing i think CC and GF has over all the others is the fact that you can practically see the characters growing. With the relationships in ZF and NC0, its like boom! bit and leena, RD and Sweet. while, in CC and GF, near the end, you start to see the relationship between Irvine and Moonbay starting to get a little touchy feely. Anyways, back to the growing part. Bit relys souly on the liger zero's abilitys, while it saves his butt multiple times. The Blade liger grows along with Van's piloting abilities, and everyone sees that. We know the origin behind the blade liger, while in FZ, it doesnt even look like the zoid that bit once piloted, it even has a second seat, and the canopy view is different. I also can appriciate the war aspect of CC and GF more then a competition. It just seems to make a little more sence. In CC and GF, if you werent in the war, you had to find a zoid, and raise it, while in the later series, all you had to do was get a few bucks and go buy a pimped out gun sniper. The characters themselves are even better. In the later series there is nothing but stereotypes, wich are dark and dramatic (helmet), evil and paranoid (that berserk fuhrer dude), and the guy that eats the magic mushrooms(RD), while in CC and GF, they all had less dramatic, and almost acted like people instead of your average anime stereotypes. --- {END RANT} ---
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Post by steelx on Dec 19, 2003 23:00:19 GMT -5
cc had alot of action and fighting. fuzors doesnt have very much action. half of the fuzors show is talking.
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Post by LordGale on Dec 20, 2003 17:39:51 GMT -5
The talking wouldn't be so bad if the voice acting wasn't so ear-searingly bad. This voice acting makes Dragon Ball/Z sound Like Evangelion!
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Post by Warewolf on Dec 21, 2003 22:34:06 GMT -5
this is my therory for the time between Zoids GF and NC/0 Van, after retiring from the Republican Army starts the ZBC, because i remember that in one episode of CC, the one with the three Royal Zabers, they talk about the Zoid battles before the war started, and i do recall that Van wanted to bring back the tornament battles that took place befor the war. i also think that Van is the chairman in Zoids NC/0 because the ZBC was just comming around. So in my thinking the time difference between GF and NC/0 is about 50 years.
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Post by Wolfy on Dec 21, 2003 22:45:53 GMT -5
oh no, the time slots are way farther apart, i'd guess around 500 years. Zi looks alot different, and they hardly talk about the war, and if was 50 years, they would still be talking about a war that massive. People still talk about WWII and that happend around 50 years ago. The US got in it in the 40's.
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Post by Dano on Dec 22, 2003 17:45:39 GMT -5
I believe that I read somewhere that the time between Guardian Force and New Century ZERO was somewhere around 5000 years. That could explain the leap of advancement in Zoid technology, how degraded the Ultrasarus wreak was, and why no one talks of the war... The forgotten war...
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Post by Tilly on Dec 23, 2003 8:09:59 GMT -5
Or covered up. Doesn't look good for the government to admit if not for a couple people with very lucky and very overpowered Zoids (one of which was a wanted criminal), everyone would've gone crispy, does it?
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Post by incognite828 on Dec 28, 2003 1:26:36 GMT -5
well i have to agree on the fact that fuzors suck big time. not only is the plot and characters weak, the zoid battles themselves suck. unlike in CC or NC, the battles are just plain boring, specially since the zoids move kinda akward. Guardian force is the best of all 4 or 3 seasons (depeding if u consider CC and GF one or two seasons) but i have to disagree with thos who bash NC too much. the problem with new century was the fact that it was too short. if it had been longer, like CC then itd be the best one. It had some of the best battles (remember liger zero jaeger ripping lightning saix apart in the royal cup tourney) but anywho thats a whole different story. fuzors suck and thats that.
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Post by Warewolf on Dec 30, 2003 18:59:25 GMT -5
i agree with Tilly because some things that happened in WWII, the Korean War, and Cold War is still being covered up by the government.
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Post by Mirage Frost on Dec 30, 2003 22:49:31 GMT -5
I still think that Fuzors needs time, I remember how bad Armada was at the beginning, although I still hate it, it pretty much redeemed itself with the Unicron Battles... (I never watched the last chapter of the show, it didn't redeem itself with me... )
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Post by Leo on Dec 31, 2003 0:35:36 GMT -5
I'm probably one of the few that considers Fuzors to be an improvement over New Century/Zero.
It's not that it has a compelling story that covers the entire series like Classic Zoids or Guardian force, but rather Fuzors does a better job with character back-stories.
In Zero, we knew nothing about the characters' respective histories. All we knew was the rivalry between Dr. Toros & Dr. Layon, and that Harry fell for Leena somewhere along the way. Beyond that, nothing.
Now take Fuzors, where we know RD and Sweet have a long history, RD's father vanished a long time ago, Amy had a partner (boyfriend?) who abandoned her, Simga and Helmut had a friend turned criminal, and something happened between RD and the whole of Savage Hammer to make them want his head on a platter. There's a lot more of a history between these characters, so it's a little more dynamic from Zero. Both shows were weak in the series-spanning plot department.
And I do actually like that RD is a piloting god like Van and Bit were. Van underwent some growth, but he only lost to Raven. Bit never lost except against Jack Sisco. RD makes mistakes, shows improvement, and just seems more human than Van or Bit.
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Post by Wolfy on Dec 31, 2003 1:14:15 GMT -5
But as an argument, all of Vans (he he he, thats a shoe ^_^) opponents got progressively more difficult, starting with sleepers, on up to the more powerful Geno Breaker/Death Saurers. So, we also see him progressing. He starts out with a chuggy, Shield liger, he bonds and grows with it, learning stuff about it, and he eventually gets the blade liger, wich evolved just in the nick on time. kinda Cliche if you ask me, but oh well.
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