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Post by fpjonesiii on Jul 9, 2020 20:07:55 GMT -5
The Zoids Wild King of Blast video game is finally coming to the west for Nintendo Switch on October 16th of this year. m.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Gw2-umrlI&feature=youtu.beI'm not big into fighting games, but I'll definitely be getting this. Hoping this is a sign that Hasbro's dub of the show and their toyline is still in the works. Maybe we'll get some news during SDCC? |
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Jul 10, 2020 14:02:31 GMT -5
If they're going to release the game to the USA, then they need to release the toys and the show to the USA as well. Have Hasbro import the toys similar to the Build Customize Mobilize line in the early 2000's. Have Cartoon Network broadcast it on [adult swim] Toonami Saturday nights at 8:00 PM since they're are adult fans of the franchise.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jul 10, 2020 14:11:53 GMT -5
This has the same logo as all of the Hasbro leaks we've seen so far, including the initial con photo and the box arts. Very interesting~ Doubt it'll ever see an Adult Swim broadcast, though. It's not a show for older fans. In fact, it's pretty heavily reviled among older viewers in the US. I'd be rich if I had a dollar for every time an older fan said they wouldn't even give it a chance because of the "childish and annoying character design" and because "Real Zoids don't have people riding on the mechs".
They'll likely continue to appeal to the intended audience, little kids. Marketing it to older kids is a death sentence. Without new blood, Zoids in general does not stand much of a chance in the US. There's just... not enough of us older fans out there to carry the franchise, and this marketing strategy did wonders for Zoids in Japan.
Also heard that this will be releasing in a LOT of countries, not just Australia! Which is exciting news. Really looking forward to seeing more of it.
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Jul 10, 2020 14:19:56 GMT -5
This has the same logo as all of the Hasbro leaks we've seen so far, including the initial con photo and the box arts. Very interesting~ Doubt it'll ever see an Adult Swim broadcast, though. It's not a show for older fans. In fact, it's pretty heavily reviled among older viewers in the US. I'd be rich if I had a dollar for every time an older fan said they wouldn't even give it a chance because of the "childish and annoying character design" and because " Real Zoids don't have people riding on the mechs". They'll likely continue to appeal to the intended audience, little kids. Marketing it to older kids is a death sentence. Without new blood, Zoids in general does not stand much of a chance in the US. There's just... not enough of us older fans out there to carry the franchise, and this marketing strategy did wonders for Zoids in Japan. Also heard that this will be releasing in a LOT of countries, not just Australia! Which is exciting news. Really looking forward to seeing more of it. Yeah but keep in mind, Zoids may be a franchise targeted towards young boys, but at it's core, it's a story of war. You also do realize that Takara Tomy has made Zoids kits geared towards adult collectors such as the short live Zoids Masterpiece toyline which is geared towards people ages 15 and up. The same thing goes for Kotobukiya's Highend Master Model line. |
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Post by Darth Escargot on Jul 10, 2020 15:09:53 GMT -5
This has the same logo as all of the Hasbro leaks we've seen so far, including the initial con photo and the box arts. Very interesting~ Doubt it'll ever see an Adult Swim broadcast, though. It's not a show for older fans. In fact, it's pretty heavily reviled among older viewers in the US. I'd be rich if I had a dollar for every time an older fan said they wouldn't even give it a chance because of the "childish and annoying character design" and because " Real Zoids don't have people riding on the mechs". They'll likely continue to appeal to the intended audience, little kids. Marketing it to older kids is a death sentence. Without new blood, Zoids in general does not stand much of a chance in the US. There's just... not enough of us older fans out there to carry the franchise, and this marketing strategy did wonders for Zoids in Japan. Also heard that this will be releasing in a LOT of countries, not just Australia! Which is exciting news. Really looking forward to seeing more of it. Yeah but keep in mind, Zoids may be a franchise targeted towards young boys, but at it's core, it's a story of war. You also do realize that Takara Tomy has made Zoids kits geared towards adult collectors such as the short live Zoids Masterpiece toyline which is geared towards people ages 15 and up. The same thing goes for Kotobukiya's Highend Master Model line. Masterpiece lasted about ten seconds with one model and another one that was basically a variant of the first, and the HMM line was as good as dead until it was revived because of Zoids Wild. As much as I'd love to see more mature-themed Zoids stuff, the lesson from basically the last 20 years is that nostalgia-based lines targeted at older fans never work, and whenever they had an anime that clearly targeted children, they had success. Anyway, I may have to actually get a Switch just for this damn game. |
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Post by Snowflake on Jul 10, 2020 16:17:08 GMT -5
I think model kits are pointless to sell to kids (look how they've had to simplify them down) and they need to focus on the ever-expanding adult audience for cool robot things. It's silly that they won't. We can't go by any past failures since they never even tried really, nothing has been marketed in the states even remotely aimed at adults, and also nothing has come here at all in many, many years
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jul 10, 2020 16:18:28 GMT -5
Those war stories are still children's stories. Every kiddy cartoon has a villain. Some of them even want to destroy the world. Often accompanied by 'groups' that are equivalent to armies. The presence of organized combat maketh not an adult show, though. Everyone has their preferences, but it's normal for teenagers and adults to not be able to get into little kids shows. We may enjoy Zoids because we are Zoids fans, but you can't market a childrens show to teenagers/adults and expect it to do well.
HMM is the only "aimed at adults" Zoids thing that has survived for a significant amount of time. MPZ, threezero, and ZA were all aimed towards an older audience. To be fair, there's a good chance they weren't intended to last, and were just brief collabs, but they're still... really, really bad examples of long-term sustainability with an older audience.
HMM does an amazing job, but it was never intended to carry the franchise alone. And before someone says HMM Wild kits, I think it's important to note that Japan does NOT have the stigma against Wild that the American, Latino, etc. communities do. It works a lot better in Japan, where older fans have largely embraced Wild, than it does here, where most older fans not only dislike, but outright hate it. HMM benefits from limited production runs that don't suit major mass production.
Nostalgia figures are great. Collabs geared towards adults, between companies like the Good Smile Company are /amazing/. These are not franchise-sustainable things, though. They are shoutouts, and limited runs. We want something that truly meets that major mass production ballpark. Wild has done that, by shifting Zoids' focus from a declining older fan base to a group of new, younger fans, who can help sustain the series for another 2-3 decades~
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Jul 10, 2020 17:38:37 GMT -5
Then how did Gundam go on [adult swim]? Wasn't that franchise marketed to sell toys too?
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Post by Darth Escargot on Jul 10, 2020 17:57:08 GMT -5
What's kind of funny about all this is, and I'm sure I've said this before, those of us who got into Zoids in the 80s pretty much despised New Century Zero for how childish it was, and I'm guessing a lot of the people who are now bagging on Wild for being too obviously aimed at kids got into Zoids with NCZ. I hated it too, but I've long since come to accept that this is a children's franchise and that's how it needs to be marketed.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jul 10, 2020 18:18:07 GMT -5
Because Gundam is actually aimed at older kids. It's rated 13 and up. The question isn't if a serious cartoon can be successful. It absolutely can! And trust me, I'd kill for a serious, gritty Zoids anime. It'd be a dream come true. Unfortunately, the question here is whether Zoids Wild specifically should be aired on Adult Swim, and I gotta give that one a firm no. It's a kiddy cartoon. Teenagers can easily get into those more 'teen animes' because... well, they're designed specifically with that demographic in mind. None of the Gundam animes that aired on Adult Swim are even half as childish as Zoids Wild is, which has designs cartoonier than pokemon. This could also just be my perception of things, but I feel like the shows that aired on Adult Swim back then were a LOT tamer than the ones that air now, which are frequently filled with extremely inappropriate humor.
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Post by fpjonesiii on Jul 10, 2020 21:46:34 GMT -5
Just a heads up, the game is already available for preorder, and in the US it's $39.99. Was originally thinking about waiting till after SDCC to decide on it, but for forty bucks I figured... why not?
Hopefully we'll be getting some good news later this month.
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Post by bladeligerzero94 on Jul 11, 2020 8:38:36 GMT -5
They could always put Chaotic Century/Guardian Force on [adult swim] Toonami becuase that series was more mature and less kiddy than the other Zoids shows that came after it.
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Post by Zarwolf on Jul 11, 2020 15:09:30 GMT -5
I sure hope this means Hasbro are finally bringing Zoids Wild out in the US (and elsewhere too).
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Post by Ernestotaku on Jul 13, 2020 2:10:11 GMT -5
Will I buy the game again in Europe/Spanish version?
Hell yes! And I hope I can get some kind of freebie, like a strap or someting.
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Post by dchan on Jul 18, 2020 15:31:01 GMT -5
Dang I paid sixty bucks for the Japanese one when it first came out, but it's definitely a good sign that it's being localized.
I love Zoids but I do admit that the only Zoids anime I've actually liked is Wild. I don't really think there's any comparison to be made with Gundam. The original show is extremely serious and psychological. Less "Dark Knight" and more "Schindler's List". It was definitely a product of someone who personally felt the effects of WWII. I know a big component was to sell model kits but the human tragedy in that story is so far removed from that. Since then, Gundam has grown so huge, with a million different anime series, movies, model kit lines and sub-lines, collaborations with car companies, national institutions, and fashion industry, the two (2!) life-size Gundam statues in Odaiba, the Gundam factory itself in Shizuoka... it's a cultural phenomenon. They are so big and can do so much that I find it pointless to compare with Zoids, which basically is just a line of model kits from the 80's, with a revival in the late 90's, and another one now.
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