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Post by CISsuperdroid on Oct 2, 2016 10:34:07 GMT -5
I guess only time will tell, but the joints on the Death Stinger are VERY stiff, and difficult to pop together at first, so I think they'll hold up well over time. However, they're still rubber, so excessive posing may not only lead to loose joints, but popping apart of joints due to the fitting style. I just make sure to push in whenever I move any joints. The Transformers guys use Future Polish on all their loose ball joints as it's acrylic based and thickens the ball and socket joints etc.. I have plenty of experience with Transformers; more so than with Zoids. This is why I figured out long ago that clear nail polish is an excellent alternative; easier to find, cheaper, and easy to apply because all bottles come with a brush. I believe I posted this somewhere else before, but I guess you weren't on that thread.
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Post by shovelchop81 on Oct 2, 2016 12:39:38 GMT -5
The Transformers guys use Future Polish on all their loose ball joints as it's acrylic based and thickens the ball and socket joints etc.. I have plenty of experience with Transformers; more so than with Zoids. This is why I figured out long ago that clear nail polish is an excellent alternative; easier to find, cheaper, and easy to apply because all bottles come with a brush. I believe I posted this somewhere else before, but I guess you weren't on that thread. LOL! That's what I use too as we don't have Future Polish in the UK!
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Post by shovelchop81 on Oct 2, 2016 12:48:24 GMT -5
I own the Berserk Fury and the Geno Breaker Raven ver. And my god is there a stark difference between the two. The fury is great. Everything holds together solid (minus parts maybe popping off on the backpack during posing) and the only issues off the top of my head are a loose tail, which I could address on my end if I felt like tearing it apart again (which I don't ha) and the fact that it needs some assistance standing depending on the pose. But given how sturdy it is otherwise and it's range of articulation I came away extremely impressived, since it was my first HMM. Now for the geno breaker. This thing is a headache. And on top of it it's a headache that doesn't really pay off in the end. The body construction has some strange engineering choices (what is up with that cockpit?) but overall the main body is fairly okay to build, but the tail flaps are gonna need glued, and the foot stabilizers are probably gonna break off upon first pose. Moving onto the bulk of the assembly issues is the guns and backpack. The backpack is obnoxiously over engineered for the relatively restricted articulation you get out of it, and it's connector to the body is a major issue. The guns have so many parts that don't seem to fit where they are supposed to I questioned whether I even used the right parts (upon multiple checks, I did indeed). And on top of all of this it's just a nightmare to pose. Once you start touching in pieces fall off, break, or just simply don't move like the neck. On the plus side though, it would seem that if you can assemble and pose a geno breaker everything short of the Gojulas is a fair bit easier. Cheers for the heads up! From You Tube reviews I got that impression but had no idea it was that fussy! I'd love to build a HMM Gojulas but the prices are nuts.
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Post by shovelchop81 on Oct 2, 2016 12:52:55 GMT -5
Isn't it supposed to restrict the movement of the joints considerably? I remember in the anime that it's installed to keep the test pilot safe as a speed restrictor and only breaks/bursts off when Irvine is able to control the Saix enough to access the full potential of the Zoid without blacking out. It did not do this by making it physically incapable of moving its legs. If it did, it would hardly go faster than a walk. This is more of a technical design flaw in the kit. After all, in the anime, you can have parts clipping through each other for animation purposes. Not so much with physical plastic. I imagine they probably didn't intend to make the Irvine saix originally, leading to a ton of issues when they finally designed the kit. The Saix doesn't appear to have ever been intended to wear these parts so they likely had to creatively work around it. Which lead to many parts not having proper connections, or being in the way of parts that were never designed to accommodate the extra armor. Ah.. I see, I'd be posing it with the armour bursting off using clear rods etc.. Just finished my first regular Saix the other day and still need to build a dio for that so not in a hurry to do another one yet!
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Post by vishus on Oct 2, 2016 16:45:19 GMT -5
I'll make it really simple.
Best=smaller kits, Worst=larger kits...seriously! I love Shadow Fox, Gun Sniper, Command Wolf, etc. Liger Zero, Shield/Blade Liger and ESPECIALLY Geno Saurer give me rage syndrome😖
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Post by shovelchop81 on Oct 2, 2016 18:16:53 GMT -5
I'll make it really simple. Best=smaller kits, Worst=larger kits...seriously! I love Shadow Fox, Gun Sniper, Command Wolf, etc. Liger Zero, Shield/Blade Liger and ESPECIALLY Geno Saurer give me rage syndrome😖 Must be a weight v. joint design problem. Sounds like ratchets and clip in place connections should have been used for the larger figures.
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Post by CeilYurei on Oct 2, 2016 21:06:23 GMT -5
If there really is a connection between weight/size and joint problems then that is probably it, especially if Koto is using rubber joints, when gundam master grade kits are similar in complexity and are all plastic. Rubber would be fine for detailing but for parts meant to support weight it's bad for heavier kits. We all know rubber sags, it's why cars have pressurized inner tubes in their tires. Rubber is meant to give, not offer solid support, you'd think some engineer would have told them to use plastic and not rubber
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Post by shovelchop81 on Oct 3, 2016 13:07:37 GMT -5
If there really is a connection between weight/size and joint problems then that is probably it, especially if Koto is using rubber joints, when gundam master grade kits are similar in complexity and are all plastic. Rubber would be fine for detailing but for parts meant to support weight it's bad for heavier kits. We all know rubber sags, it's why cars have pressurized inner tubes in their tires. Rubber is meant to give, not offer solid support, you'd think some engineer would have told them to use plastic and not rubber I guess they've got a "formula" they're stuck on for building kits that are normally smaller and need to bring in a new product design engineer as their models grow in size. Pretty much what you said. Engineers often find it hard to think laterally, that's where designers are needed, although as I know through experience, they usually don't like to talk to each other, unfortunately to the product and customers' detriment!
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Post by Maethius on Oct 3, 2016 15:02:46 GMT -5
Of course, almost no kits actually use rubber; they use a softer plastic that is supposed to retain pressure and form better, but the stuff still inevitably stretches out (or cracks, like the infamous joints on Sturm Tyrann).
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Post by CISsuperdroid on Oct 3, 2016 16:40:47 GMT -5
Yeah, that's why they're called polycaps, not rubber caps- it's just a softer plastic, and I noticed their stretchiness leaves a bit to be desired, as cutting parts from the runners is far easier than I'd imagine it would be with actual rubber.
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