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Post by Vig on Apr 3, 2018 13:30:15 GMT -5
How did you know the matching goes up to 460000? Is there A SPEC matching chart somewhere I missed out on? I've noticed the matching hasn't been too bad to me either, after too long a period of time I decided to finally Jump into Dark horn and get through some more missions seeing as I have huge stockpiles of memory chips and banks and running out of zoids to upgrade which have already done the missions. Over half way to 30 now with Dark Horn, hasn't been as hard as I imagined surprisingly, I live amongst the small zoids for protection and it really packs a punch against the bases, I can get a small base down to red very quickly if left alone for 20 seconds with it. As always quite the change of pace from a 4 speed zoid though. Thinking oh what I would do to certain zoids bugging me if I were in Saber Tiger haha.
I'll have to bite the bullet and get a monkey sometime, Seeing that post on twitter of an Iron kong petting a saber tiger on the head made me think maybe one wouldn't be too bad. I don't hate them like I used to, in the Gorilla hey days. The zoid in it's hey day now is to no surprise Zero Jager, those things are damm hard to catch when they got the special speed attack equipped. Pretty sure every zoid when new is made especially strong right after release to get as many people as possible to purchase. Then eventually the day comes when they get nerfed.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Apr 3, 2018 13:41:29 GMT -5
That's just my experience of what I see in the matching table. Haven't gotten over 500k yet. I did however just upgrade my Zeek Dober, expecting the SPEC to not go up too much. It went up over 100k though, so now I'm matching with people in the 700-ish range and it's brutal. Some matches go fine, but in others, like one I had this morning, I was a 3 shot for a Liger Zero with a near-max Trinity and I'm guessing some EX99 weapons. Surviving ok in most fights, just it's a shocker when you run into those high SPEC Zoids!
What equip have you been using for the Dark Horn out of curiosity? That's one of the missions I've also gotta do here before too long. Probably after the monkey since it's already halfway done. Dark Horns can be quite formidable though, and even without much PVP strength, the extended time a Zoid is trying to wittle through their HP is more time they're not spending attacking the rest of the team.
Yeah, I expect Jager will be nerfed when Schneider or whatnot go in. The monkeys seem most powerful when they've got the Diablo. Doing over 1k ish damage on an auto seeking missile... ouch. I don't think Diablo damages bases though? Which is interesting. Since it is a missile. I guess they felt that specifically needed to be nerfed, and I can't say that they're wrong.
Had 2 lucky battles the past couple days, where an ally disconnected at the very beginning, before the fight began. We still won, and not really with super teams. The first was with a Command Wolf and a Konig Wolf, and the second was with a Konig Wolf and a Dibison, I believe? Certainly a nice surprise nonetheless.
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Post by Vig on Apr 3, 2018 14:33:56 GMT -5
Ah yep I know the feeling, thus why I'm not in Lightning saix as much as I used to be, there was a period there where Lightning saix was an unstoppable machine, then the spec change happened. And I had to be veeery careful. The 700ish Range that's what My Saber Tiger is in! But I don't have much trouble there with 3 EX 99 weapons equipped and the Iron fin taking off a total of 1170 for a double hit. Have I encountered you since in a battle since the Ex was handed out? I don't think I have. Maybe now I will, hopefully on the same side though!
What i've been using for Dark horn is it's Hybrid Vulcan, The close range combat EX65, which wins me some time when knocking down zoids being an annoyance as well as a useful way to finish off that one small zoid that sometimes doesn't fall down with the others, And The two shot red weapon for bases which, mind you is an Ex 99 thus undoubtedly the reason why I can get the bases down so quick. Despite that my spec is still only 130723 which really helps, The dark Horn can take quite a few hits which is good but I don't think I'd do well if the enemies were much stronger.
Hah yea all these super powerful interesting looking weapons is another reason I've been considering an ape. I want to try them all out!
Congrats on those wins with only 3 players! So rare to achieve but great when it happens, Happy when the team don't give up straight away. Guess it's also a warning not to become too lenient when playing against an enemy team of 3. Sometimes all it takes is one strong zoid who carries the team or base storms to win. There's one match I can recall from experience that did happen.
One other thing I learned today, as you saw in the Video I put on twitter, It's worth trying to destroy the Large zoid box! I only got a few missiles into it, and I was alone under fire yet it still exploded. I get the feeling maybe they forgot to increase the health of the Large zoid construction boxes in line with the influx of high ex weapon levels. So happy about that match though I swore we were going to lose we were being slaughtered right from the beginning! But they let the middle base go down first so our large zoid successfully went down the midddle lane, then I was able to destroy their box and they couldn't get the last base down in time.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Apr 3, 2018 15:08:18 GMT -5
I believe we had one, but I can't remember it very well. I think you were in the K Wuf? Not bad on the Iron Fin! The Pulse Cannon isn't far behind, but speaking of. I've been encountering a lot of EX 99 50mm Beam Guns on destroyers, who are using it to have a poor man's Iron Fin. I've seen it on a Liger Zero (the high EX/Trinity one) and on a Geno Breaker, and it was devastating both times. I guess that Destroyer boost makes it a lot more dangerous. One day I'll have the red gun! I was eyeing the Supporter Container since I'll have enough gold soon to buy a 10 pack, but think I'll stick to the basic container. There are a few SR weapons I want (that hyper killer clawww), and while the odds aren't as high of getting said item I want, I think I'd cry if I got the Support Container and got the Red Eyes, haha. Not that it's not a chance in the other ones too, but there are a lot more weapons I could get and be ok with. Yeah, was amazed nobody quit the battles! Very thankful. They all fought hard. Interesting to know about the large zoid thing! It is kind of strange that they removed the HP bar on it. Will have to give it a go next time I see it! Imagine the gunblaster thought you were going to die any second, then it fell and he must've immediately been like "Oh crap." |
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Post by Vig on Apr 4, 2018 0:40:40 GMT -5
50mm beam guns for some reason I though was a monkey exclusive weapon, Didn't know they could be used on destroyers! I had never even tried to use it. Looking at it now though, it's not bad but there seems to be more powerful options out there. The range is one more than Iron fin which is one plus. I'll take your word for it that it hurts, like a number of two shot weapons. Wonder if they had them at crazy high ex levels. Poor mans Iron fin, looks the part too, made me laugh. I'll probably start noticing them more now.
Yep I so want Hyper killer claw, It'll give me an excuse to take Genobreaker out for a run. Honestly one of the best things about buying Gachas now is the fact they also give you 30 ex metal to spend. So even a crappy Gacha has it's reward. Still painfully expensive though, I've just been satisfied with My everything levelled Saber so haven't been buying as many lately though.
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Post by Falcarius on May 9, 2018 9:40:34 GMT -5
Ugh, I really need to get back into FoR. (I wonder how many times I've said that already?)
Let's see what they've added since I last posted...
New Zoids: Liger Zero Jager [Fighter], Liger Zero Schneider [Commander]
New colours: blue/orange Gordos [1st anniversary], green/yellow Shield Liger [1st anniversary], red Double Cannon [1st anniversary], orange Double Beam Cannon [1st anniversary], black/red Schneider [limited-time mission reward]
New pilots: Sara Morris [Gacha Shop exclusive], Shelton Vogueman [event exclusive], Carla Agwe [VS Drop Container exclusive]
New weapons: Ion Boosters [Jager-exclusive SR], Beam Launcher Set [PK-exclusive SR], Shield Attack [Shield Liger-exclusive SR], Hyper Killer Claws [Geno Breaker-exclusive SR], Large Base Repair Unit (%) [Supporter-exclusive SR], Medium HP Repair Unit (%) [Supporter-exclusive SR], Final Blade Attack [Blade Liger-exclusive SR], Beam Launcher Set [Red Horn-exclusive SR], Hyper Beam Gun [everything except Kongs, SR], Five-Blade Storm [Schneider-exclusive SR]
New upgrade items: EX Metal [increases EX level of weapons]
New shop items: Recruit Set 2300 Zoid Gold [2300 ZG for 720 yen, probably only for new players]
Current Special Missions: Carla Agwe Appearance Commemoration Missions [see below, expire 23:59 18/5]
Current gacha shop event: Pilot Pick-Up Container [increased drop rate for gacha-exclusive pilots (everyone except Shelton and Carla, I think) until 18/5]
Current VS map: random chance of desert or city until 18/5
Other changes:
- VS Mode now drops silver containers (which won't give SR weapons) if you lose or draw, and blue, purple or super containers if you win
- The non-gacha shop now stocks Memory Chips instead of weapons
- Large Zoids have had their EX level cap altered and their construction time shortened
- Sienna Lily is finally in the game (not counting her brief introduction in one of the story segments)
Carla Agwe Appearance Commemoration Missions
Play 1 total battle in VS Mode: EX Metal x10
Play 2 total battles in VS Mode: Carla Agwe x1
Play 3 total battles in VS Mode: EX Metal x10
Play 4 total battles in VS Mode: Carla Agwe x1
Play 5 total battles in VS Mode: EX Metal x10
Play 6 total battles in VS Mode: 5-set (incl. 1 guaranteed SR weapon) gacha ticket x1
Play 7 total battles in VS Mode: EX Metal x10
Play 8 total battles in VS Mode: Carla Agwe x1
Play 9 total battles in VS Mode: EX Metal x10
Play 10 total battles in VS Mode: Carla Agwe x1
Sara Morris: A former Republic Army pilot. She met Trinity on the battlefield and was charmed at first sight, witnessing the way she always fought boldly. When she was discharged from the Republic Army, she enlisted in F.E.S as if chasing her. Her personality is cheerful, but she also has an earnest, stubborn side. She is the cautious type and doesn't take risks, even on the battlefield.
Full Burst: "Wind-Speed Hunter" (increases ally Zoids' DF and EN recovery rate for 9 seconds)
Passive Skill: "Take Battles Cautiously" (increases your Zoid's DF and EN recovery rate)
Preferred Zoid: Liger Zero Jager
Shelton Vogueman (early 30s): Also worked as a model during his Republic Army days. Learning that he had fans in the Empire as well, he joined the neutrally-positioned F.E.S. He has an overly self-conscious personality, but is actually more of a pacifist than anyone else, and wants to eliminate conflict from the world.
Full Burst: "Beautiful Electromagnetic Fangs" (increases your Zoid's anti-Zoid and anti-Small Zoid AT and DF for 9 seconds)
Passive Skill: "Hi, Kitten" (increases your Zoid's anti-Zoid and anti-Small Zoid AT and max HP for the first 5 minutes)
Preferred Zoid: König Wolf
Carla Agwe (early 20s): A provisional F.E.S pilot. She was a former Republic Army pilot, but fled from the army to search for "what she was really meant to do". After a series of coincidences, she became a member of F.E.S. Wants to discover what she was really meant to do someday.
Full Burst: "Moving Sculpture of Passion" (increases ally Zoids' anti-base AT and speed for 9 seconds)
Passive Skill: "What I'm Meant To Do" (increases your Zoid's anti-base AT and speed)
Preferred Zoid: Liger Zero Schneider
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Post by Hanyoutai on May 18, 2018 3:15:45 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the translations! Almost missed this post, actually. It also looks like there's a new comic up! |
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Post by Falcarius on May 30, 2018 8:09:17 GMT -5
Well, the time has finally come. Takara Tomy has announced that Field of Rebellion will be shutting down at 11:00 on the 27th of July. As part of the shutdown process, they have stopped selling Zoid Gold as of 11:00 yesterday, and as usual for mobile games, they won't be giving refunds for any ZG or items already purchased. There is some good news, however: from now until the game ends, all players can claim a present of 10,000 free Zoid Gold plus a daily login bonus of 3,000 ZG, allowing people to get pretty much anything they like for free. We've still got a couple of updates to look forward to as well... 22/5: New Drop Container-exclusive weapons: Grenade Launcher [R], Crusher Horn [Dark Horn-exclusive SR], AZ Railgun & Linear Gun [Elephander-exclusive SR] 29/5: New Zoid: Liger Zero Panzer [Supporter] New weapon: Hybrid Cannons [Panzer-exclusive SR] New missions: win enough VS Mode battles with Panzer by 23:59 18/6 to unlock a limited black/red Panzer colour scheme Current maps: random choice of all stages (forest/desert/city/wetlands) Other: winning in VS Mode now earns you 500 ZG, up to a total of 2500 ZG per day 18/6: New Zoid: Sturm Tyrann New weapon: ?? [Sturm-exclusive SR] New subpilots: Liv and Hiromi New game mode: single-player "Co-op" Other: account transfers will no longer be supported 27/7: Game will shut down at 11:00 Japan time (multiplayer matching will stop at 10:40). |
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Post by Hanyoutai on May 30, 2018 8:55:01 GMT -5
Yeah. I've been taking the chance to take a lot of my Zoids out for a run. Today went walkies with the Command Wolf, Konig Wolf, Saber Tiger, Dibison, Lightning Saix, Zeek Dober, and Elephander. I plan to use the ZG to pick them all up and try to get complete video of their animation sets. Win, lose, close range attacks, etc. I just wish I had a higher end computer to get that top notch quality!
I'm very sad to see it go. I feel it's the only Zoids game, for better or worse, that fulfilled the need to go fight against other players in real time. There were other 'multiplayer' apps, and the VS games, but multiplayer on older consoles is a disorienting nightmare. I did see someone posting a picture of the Zoids Wild app that mentioned something about team play/battle simulation? But I have no idea where the screenshot was from or what exactly that entails, until we get a proper preview or the app releases.
I also genuinely appreciated that they were willing to give some love to Zoids who usually didn't get any. Zeek Dober, Gunblaster, etc. Many of these Zoids play second fiddle in games, or don't make an appearance at all. We can probably safely say that this won't happen in the Zoids Wild app. At least, up until this point, we've not seen any mention of older Zoids featuring in the actual media content.
Overall, just wish there was more out there. I kind of figured the second we heard Zoids Wild was getting an app that this would be the case though, and it's pretty par for the course for Zoids apps. Roughly a year.
As far as gameplay goes, my current goal is to use the gacha EX to max out both of my HP repair kits. I always wondered what a K Wuf would be like with maxed heal ability. I don't expect it to be all that great, but since the K Wuf is my favorite Zoid of the franchise, it's only fitting to chase that curiosity at the end. My only other goal would be to get Trinity to level 10. I'd like to experience what it is like to pilot a Zoid that fast. A long ways to go, yet!
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Post by Vig on May 30, 2018 23:09:48 GMT -5
I of course will really really really miss this game. I too were taking some zoids out for a run today. Blade liger, Panzer, Jager whom I finally received the ion booster for. Bought every zoid too, I ran the elephants and gorillas in co-op mode but I cant be taking them into battle without levelling up. Also no way I'll ever get all the missions done in time. Oh well, I think I'd like to spend my last days mostly as quality time with my beloved Saber Tiger. I'll be so sad when I have to say goodbye one final time. It's kinda different this time as we have spent actual money on it and it's just going to vanish like that. They really done such a good job on it and so many people are playing so much so it ended up with it's own social circle. For a niche market like zoids which could have crashed and burned not long after being released, to do so well only to see the pin being pulled assumingly to make way for the new app I can't help but feel a little like what the hell are they doing. Why destroy something that is working so well. Like, can't it just be a long running app like many other famous apps out there in the world.
I can't see how the next app could ever be as good but I'll hope for the best.
As for the gold , Been grabbing gachas but Guess we just gotta be careful to make sure we have enough for Sturm Tyrann to come out! (for it's short lived life)
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Post by Ernestotaku on May 31, 2018 2:09:22 GMT -5
I read this on twitter, so sad.
Even thogh I didn't play so much because of the language and MOBA system, it wasn't bad...
Hopefully we will get a decent game on Switch.
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Post by Falcarius on Jun 18, 2018 9:24:27 GMT -5
Well, the final update is here, and it's... mostly what I was expecting. We've got Sturm Tyrann (a Destroyer) as an Attachment Unit available through the Step-Up Gacha, the X-Breakers (SMT) as its exclusive SR weapon, and the new subpilots Liv Mirrors and Hiromi Linden, as well as three new single-player Co-op modes: "Solo Sortie! Base Destruction Orders" (destroy all enemy bases before time runs out or the Death Stinger kills your stronghold), "The Empire Army's Counterattack" (defeat a Death Saurer and a Bloody Death Saurer before time runs out or the Small Zoids kill your stronghold) and "The Republic Army's Resistance" (as above, but with a Madthunder and a Gojulas The Ogre). The staff have also given everyone another 10000 free Zoid Gold, on top of the daily 3000 ZG (which it turns out goes to your Present box even if you didn't login that day), and shortened the Support Container unlock time to 1 hour.
As usual, the Sturm comes with Normal Missions for getting it to 10 VS wins/30 VS wins/level 20, plus Special Missions for the first five VS wins (with the usual exclusive black/red colour scheme as a reward, ending at the same time the game shuts down). Unlike usual, though, the new subpilots have no associated missions and thus no story cutscenes at all. Which is a shame, because these characters sound particularly interesting...
Liv Mirrors (early 30s): A former Empire Army enhanced pilot, known as the Phantom. Her semicircular canals can withstand severe G-forces. Her Zoid piloting skills are first-rate. She is normally a graceful and kind woman. She hates harming people or things.
Full Burst: "Phantom's Slash" (decreases enemy Zoids' speed and anti-Zoid AT for 7 seconds)
Passive Skill: "I Can't Return To The Past" (increases your Zoid's anti-Zoid AT, speed and DF when its HP is below 30%)
Hiromi Linden (early 20s): A former programming researcher. She was caught up in an accident during Zoid research and became able to communicate with Zoids, so she transferred to become a pilot. She loves research, and when she concentrates, she immerses herself and forgets about everything else. She likes logical, well-reasoned ideas.
Full Burst: "Calculated Battlefield" (increases ally Zoids' EN recovery rate and recovers their HP for 11 seconds)
Passive Skill: "That's Inefficient" (increases your Zoid's max HP and max EN)
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 19, 2018 17:05:15 GMT -5
The real tragedy about there not being stories for them is that the girl is called Phantom... and who knows if we'll be getting a final chapter of the manga. I'd guess not.
Thank you so much for all the translations, though! I'm getting my andapp and stuff updated today to go through and record as much as I possibly can before the game goes down. I've also got all weapons besides the Tyrann's (totally useless) Ex Breaker, so I should be able to do some showcase videos of the Zoids and their equipment.
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Post by Falcarius on Jun 20, 2018 10:14:01 GMT -5
Not only is Liv the Phantom, but judging from chapter 3 of the manga, she's also the woman who was mentioned in Vance's profile, that one obvious plot hook that's been around since the game began! I really hope they give us some kind of conclusion or at least a bit more explanation about her, but I'm not optimistic. As you may have guessed, I'm in archiving mode too - I've got all the subpilots and basic Zoids, and nearly all the weapons. Unfortunately I missed most of the limited-time-only stuff for one reason or another, so I might have to rely on you and Vig for that. Considering your love for colour variations, I'm guessing you got most or all of the limited colour schemes? (Hanshin Tigers Saber, 1st anniversary Shieldy/Gordos, and black/red Elephander/Zero/Konig/Gojulas CA/all the CASes.) Meanwhile, it looks like you're missing 16 or 17 weapons if my list is complete (I'm not sure whether to count the tutorial missiles - they're listed on the walkthrough site, but I don't think they're available as a normal weapon in-game), but Vig's only missing 3 or 4 (not sure which ones). I got the Hellfire, but missed out on the Anti-DS Medium-Calibre Electromagnetic Cannon, the two 1st anniversary guns and 11 of the 15 prototype exclusives (the other 4 are available as tutorial rewards). Otherwise, between my two accounts, I think I've found every weapon except the Panzer's Hybrid Cannons and the strangely elusive Test-Type Upward-Launching Missiles (I suspect they're limited to a specific Co-op mode). What else can I archive... I think I can get most of the missions/titles, but I won't be getting 30 wins with each Zoid (possibly not even 10 with some of them) and I'm not sure if I'll make it to 500 total wins, certainly not 1000. I won't be able to get every variation of every Zoid on a single account, but I should be able to catalogue them all bit by bit if I reset my secondary account a few times and spend the free ZG on Memory Containers. The same goes for checking weapon stats at max level/EX level, although I doubt I'll have the patience for that. I probably won't be able to find out the level up requirements/rewards past maybe 16-ish, or the LP requirements for the gold and platinum ranks. And I've recorded all the music (although I don't think it's possible to get the victory/defeat jingles without a roar over the end), and could probably get the sound effects if anyone's interested. Can you think of anything else? |
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 20, 2018 18:45:36 GMT -5
Oops, probably should have clarified better. I have all of the "SR" weapons besides the Ex Breaker. I need them to record their animations. My guide on TIB is horribly out of date. As in, I haven't updated it since they did the SPEC matching, I don't think, so yeah. it will be missing a lot of stuff. I also don't plan to go for the Co-Op weapons at all. I'm mainly just video recording right now so that there's record of the nice attacks and stuff the Zoids have, and their animation sets. Do the victory jingles/etc. play the roars if you turn off the sound effects?
As for colors, I unfortunately passed on a couple. Elephander and Gojulas CA for sure. Also Jager I believe, because I wasn't willing to play the stupid step-up container game to get the missions. I've got K Wuf, Schneider, Panzer, soon the Sturm, and the basic Zero.
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