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Post by Falcarius on Jun 20, 2016 12:02:39 GMT -5
TO ANYONE WHO HAS A SHIELD LIGER EMERALD OR TOY (RZ-007) VERSION: It looks like there isn't going to be an update to the Roulette this week, so I have no way of getting those last two Zoids. If anyone here does have them (probably greengai, lordofdragons or Vig), could you please send me screenshots of all their possible evolutions, as well as their evolution trees (even MS Paint diagrams will do for the trees)? I'd also like screenshots for the normal Command Wolf and Helcat, although there's a chance I'll be able to pick these up as random drops. Also, on the slight chance anyone has a picture of the Zoids Get screens for Toy Shieldy, plain Pandos, plain White Tiger, plain Command Wolf or Helcat, I'm also looking for those. Oh, and lordofdragons, any chance you'd be able to access the music files? I've already made MP3 recordings, but I'd prefer to have the original files if possible. Only two and a half days to go!
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 20, 2016 16:14:21 GMT -5
I don't suppose anyone can better explain how the battle system works? Like, I know you spin in a circle and shoot Zoids, but it seems having certain Zoids attached to your islands gives you some kind of boost? Or adds little icons like missiles or whatever. What do these do? I'm trying to figure out how to better beat allies, cause at around 2k I can't find any defeatable enemies.
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Post by lordofdragons on Jun 20, 2016 18:55:00 GMT -5
Simply put: no chance. Since they opened up the roulette for all special zoids everybody and his dog put a gold panda in it and that thing is OP from head to tail. Basically around 2k it's all frozen right now since you can only loose if you open up an island. Falcarius: It should be in the data files. Difficult to say with all the obfuscation going on where they are but I've pulled all the private memory data so it is in there somewhere for sure. I just can't tell.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 20, 2016 19:54:56 GMT -5
I'm confident I can get further than I am, even if 'not very.' I am using only a level 140 Command Wolf. It can go up another 60 levels, and just 10 or so levels is a difference between beating Cloud Ocean or not. I'm just curious what difference the Zoids attached to your other islands do. They make new icons and stuff show up, like they're buffing certain things, but I'm not sure if that affects your overall battle or not.
That being said, I've got a gold panda too, and it's easy as crap to level 100+ if you can open Cloud Ocean, so if all else fails I can, too, get an OP Gold Panda.
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Post by Falcarius on Jun 21, 2016 2:23:44 GMT -5
Those are the "combination effects" triggered by the particular combination of Zoids on each island. They can buff HP, melee/ranged attacks, defence or speed, and vary in strength from blue up to rainbow. Looking at the stats, I think Red Horn/Dark Horn should be slightly stronger than Pandos Gold. The Horns generally have slightly higher HP and ranged attack, plus significantly higher defence. Pandos Gold has slightly higher speed and noticeably higher melee attack, but honestly, how often do you use melee? (On the other hand, certain Pandos evolutions can get to level 200 while the Horns have a maximum of 180, so the extra 20 levels on a maxed-out Pandos might make up for the lower defence.)
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Post by Vig on Jun 21, 2016 2:44:38 GMT -5
I don't have Shield liger Emerald or Toy version unfortunately, I do have the normal unchanged Helcat though If you want screenies
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Post by Falcarius on Jun 21, 2016 3:09:34 GMT -5
I'll take whatever I can get! I'm looking for a screenshot of each possible evolution (I've been taking them with the Zoid facing left and slightly forwards, but that doesn't really matter as long as its equipment and stats are visible), plus the evolution tree in some form (I've been making collages of screenshots in MS Paint, but even a line drawing will do as long as it tells me which evolution goes where).
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Post by lordofdragons on Jun 21, 2016 11:59:14 GMT -5
Those are the "combination effects" triggered by the particular combination of Zoids on each island. They can buff HP, melee/ranged attacks, defence or speed, and vary in strength from blue up to rainbow. Looking at the stats, I think Red Horn/Dark Horn should be slightly stronger than Pandos Gold. The Horns generally have slightly higher HP and ranged attack, plus significantly higher defence. Pandos Gold has slightly higher speed and noticeably higher melee attack, but honestly, how often do you use melee? (On the other hand, certain Pandos evolutions can get to level 200 while the Horns have a maximum of 180, so the extra 20 levels on a maxed-out Pandos might make up for the lower defence.) That's not the inheret OP problem on the gold panda. The one evolution everybody flocks too turns gold panda into god on island defense. It has a V-shape attack in chain-gun speed. Before 2 seconds are elapsed all but one zoid are already toast since they spawn right in the line-of-fire on both sides of the panda shredding them before they can move. No, this things is OP as hell which is why nearly everybody filled up their island with it. But that said the ladder thing has no value after tomorrow anyways.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 21, 2016 13:02:43 GMT -5
I am missing so many things, I am kind of sad. So many Zoids and Achievements.
Anyone know what comes after the 5mil Island energy achievement? How many evolution achivements there are, battle rates, etc.? Battle wins? Total Zoids?
I was so hoping they would have released all the Zoids on Roulette, but it seems they'll leave many collections incomplete. It would have been a simple matter, shame it hasn't turned out that way.
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Post by Vig on Jun 21, 2016 16:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 22, 2016 0:53:20 GMT -5
Just a heads up to anyone that might be able to record some of Cloud Ocean, I don't think I'll be able to. I can't find a functioning video recorder for my tablet. I have a Zoid that can clear it on the tablet game, but also can't figure out how to get it to let me re-enter the code? If anyone knows how to cancel the 'previous' code and set a new linkup, please let me know. I'll still be working on a solution over the next few hours.
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Post by Falcarius on Jun 22, 2016 4:01:19 GMT -5
Excellent, now I just have to find a Command Wolf (currently spamming Jera 8, since it's been known to randomly drop them) and... do whatever I can for the Emerald and Toy Shieldies (I'm cycling through mission partners until I find one and then taking a screenshot of its stats and special attack cut-in). Still need to try out Battle Mode and maybe get shots of the different special attacks, too. Unfortunately I won't have time to beat any of Hanyoutai's achievements, and I probably won't be able to get Cloud Ocean working either. If you can't get the video working, do you think you'll at least be able to list the terrain types and boss colours for each island? Oh, and I finally beat Jera last night, so at least I can say I "finished" Material Hunters now EIGHTEEN HOURS LEFT!
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 22, 2016 15:26:55 GMT -5
Holy crap, we lost internet for like 6 hours. I knew I shouldn't have listened to that nagging sleep deprivation feeling! So much time lost. I miiiight have Command Wolf sitting in my extra grab box? I just need to clear out some Zoids and check it out.
EDIT: Turns out I didn't get the Command Wolf, coulda sworn I nabbed it from a mission? But oh well. Still a few hours left to try to archive some things.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 22, 2016 22:06:09 GMT -5
Ahh, tragic game death. On time to the second. RIP: Zoids Material Hunters.
I did get the Toy Shieldy pics if you still need them~
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Post by Falcarius on Jun 25, 2016 10:17:07 GMT -5
Oh good, I wasn't able to find many Toy/Emerald Shieldies as random allies, so any pics will be handy. I never did find a standard Command Wolf, either, but I did play enough of Battle Mode to get the massively overgunned evolution for Command Wolf Black (and make it within the top 200 players). And if you're wondering why I would focus on evolving the Black Wolf, that particular evolution has a unique special attack: Meteor Burst. It was just as explosive as it sounds Also, it turns out Battle Mode gave out a free Helcat the first time you played it >_>
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