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Post by cloudymecha on Jul 22, 2018 13:44:50 GMT -5
Hi everyone,
I posed this question to r/Zoids and the reception seems positive but I'm trying to gauge overall interest since pins have to be printed in batches of 50+ to be affordable.
Would people in interested in getting some custom enamel pins printed up of various Zoids-y things? It started as faction symbols but specific Zoids have also been requested and could totally be done. (Though I may need someone to help design those depending on what we're looking for.)
I'm thinking Guylos Empire as the first pin since they seem popular.
Basically, I'll set up an online shop and you'll pay what I pay. So pins+supplies (bubble mailer, shipping labels)+shipping+transaction fees. For US residents, that's probably about $7-8/ pin. I'm willing to ship international just be aware they'll be shipping from the US.
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Post by Snowflake on Jul 22, 2018 13:51:43 GMT -5
That's not a bad price I feel like the faction symbols are the only really appropriate thing for pins (biggest mistake in pin design is trying to shrink a big picture down too small), and I'm not that invested in the faction symbols. Couldnt hope to depict zoids themselves on pins unless they were the biiig pins over an inch and a half in diameter
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Post by cloudymecha on Jul 22, 2018 13:59:14 GMT -5
I haven't worked out the Zoids yet, I'm just trying to gauge reception. My take would be to only do chibi versions or heads, not whole, full detailed Zoids bodies.
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Post by Maiasa Liger on Jul 22, 2018 14:05:28 GMT -5
Hell yeah I'm so down for this! Since the Zoids core box already comes with a few faction pins (and I have to agree with Snowflake on this one, faction pins aren't all that enticing to me), I think doing a Zoids head pin would be much cooler; also since barely any exist. Could perhaps take this Shadow Fox one as inspiration for how to design it, limit details and size?
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Post by cloudymecha on Jul 22, 2018 19:09:15 GMT -5
Hell yeah I'm so down for this! Since the Zoids core box already comes with a few faction pins (and I have to agree with Snowflake on this one, faction pins aren't all that enticing to me), I think doing a Zoids head pin would be much cooler; also since barely any exist. Could perhaps take this Shadow Fox one as inspiration for how to design it, limit details and size? So spent 2 hours fiddling, something like this?
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jul 22, 2018 21:25:21 GMT -5
I would be interested but I'd have to see the pins first. The Core Box, as mentioned above, already released the faction pins so I feel like it makes them a little less enticing. Again though, that'd depend on how it was done. I'd be all over a Zenebas pin that was done with a deep glitter red enamel and gold trim. For insignias, you could also do some not released. Leomasters would be a good one since it also has a Zoid on it.
The Geno Breaker pin isn't bad but I won't lie. I'm just not that into the 'full color' ones. I also love the metallic lines much more than black lines. The Fox one above was freaking amazing because of the black/gold and I'm so sad I was never able to get one. The more color there is, though, the tackier it feels to me. Maybe go for less colorful Zoids? Though it might be harder to sell. A Blade Liger KS, or a Lightning Saix or even some of the Dark Zoids (black/green could look good with silver trim/lines.)
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Post by Maiasa Liger on Jul 22, 2018 23:55:38 GMT -5
I hope I'll get the time to do some mockups later but I'll dump a couple ideas here. My personal opinion is that a side view for Zoids would work best, since the amount of detail should (presumably) be kept to a minimum. Following the example of the Shadow Fox pin, Zoids with prominent silver or gold parts would lend themselves nicely for that style. E.g. Liger Zero X, Empire Zero, perhaps Murasame and its evolts, ... (is my preference for Ligers showing? oops. these are just ones that I can think of off the top of my head). Although I could also imagine the combination of white + silver lines, such as Liger Zero or König Wolf to look fantastic. Chiming in with Han, metallic lines and a limited color palette look just soooo good. I also like the idea of a Leomaster pin. I could imagine it well with a gold canopy and trim, and a sparkly blue and white background. I'm sure a lot of people would dig a glow-in-the-dark Dark Guylos empire pin as well. However I have no experience with pins so I have no knowledge on color availability, number of colors, or other requirements such as minimum line thickness etc.
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Post by cloudymecha on Jul 23, 2018 10:35:32 GMT -5
So if I'm not mistaken, (I don't own it) the core box only came with OJR factions? First pin was going to be Guylos Empire (dragon w/ sword). I like the idea of something classier so I'll try to throw a design into the vote that incorporates that (silver or gold outline with black?). If this becomes a recurring thing, the idea would be to vote on a design, come up with 2-3 color schemes, vote on those, and print the winner.
I would love to do LeoMaster or some more obscure Zoids/ color variations. If I can establish a customer base we can definitely do some more obscure stuff. 50 pins costs a little over $100, if I can sell half to three quarters off the bat I'd be willing to print.
Basic process is: a mold is created and pressed into a metal, depressions are filled with color and metal ridges become the outline. My outlines have been black but they could be silver, gold, brass, black. Glitter, glow-in-the-dark, etc. can be done, it just raises the price. The companies have a designer that sends you a proof with design fixes, color changes, etc. so if it was going to come out a disaster I'd assume they'd tell you. lol
And thank you guys for the feedback, I'll work on some Zoids designs in the coming weeks and hopefully I can come up with something that looks good!
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Post by SteelRain on Jul 23, 2018 11:08:48 GMT -5
I'd be interested, depending on the design/s. I definitely like the idea of the Leomaster insignia. Is the $100~/50 pins for a single design, or can you get multiple designs in a single batch?
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Post by Snowflake on Jul 23, 2018 15:06:40 GMT -5
I didn't realize custom shapes was on the table, I assumed these were simple circle button pins. I'd definitely be interested in these stylized zoid-head pins.
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Post by cloudymecha on Jul 30, 2018 21:21:43 GMT -5
It's $120 for 50 pins of a single design. Yes, they are custom shaped. So I had a fair bit of interest so I'm going to try and go ahead with this. Please go to the reddit post (link below) and pick your favorite scheme if you're interested in purchasing. If I get ~25-30 people I'm going to go ahead and order.
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Post by Maiasa Liger on Jul 31, 2018 0:27:45 GMT -5
Ooooh I really hope the subtle one with gold trim wins. That'd look so elegant~
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Post by Maiasa Liger on Jul 31, 2018 10:59:38 GMT -5
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Post by Snowflake on Jul 31, 2018 16:34:06 GMT -5
hmmm pretty cool! Still not as into the faction symbols compared to zoid heads, but definitely cool
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jul 31, 2018 16:51:03 GMT -5
Hmm, I like these, but I think it'd have also been nice to have a subtle color version with a light silver blade instead of dark silver. It would've been a really striking accent down the center of the pin. I do appreciate the 3d mockups above though, still love the subtle color~
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