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Post by Falcarius on May 22, 2016 5:50:08 GMT -5
My computer would probably explode if I tried to record video while Bluestacks was running, but I am hoping to get screenshots of all the evolution trees (hopefully different colours don't have different trees). I'd also like to find as many of the Zoids Get screens as possible, because they include brief descriptions that are colour-specific. (So far I have Cannon Tortoise, Hammerrock, Molga, and the blue and pink Shield Ligers.)
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Post by lordofdragons on May 22, 2016 5:53:55 GMT -5
(...) It's good to know somebody can get at the game code, though! Do you think there's any chance you'd be able to make a functional offline version? Apparently the standard app will "no longer launch" after the shutdown date. (...) Game assets not code. Scripts usually are not accessible. But that game is not really the pinnacle of complexity. You can certainly not make it function offline without reimplementing the game. That said in such a case one could leave out all the riff-raff about money making, shop and news. If you strip the game of this blunder there is not much left if you look hard at it . I usually rip assets like 3d models, textures or animations. If a game gets shut down they sort-of turn it over into abandonware state
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Post by Hanyoutai on May 26, 2016 2:41:53 GMT -5
I can't read what it's for, but just logged in to 5,000 Zoids Gold? I assume some sort of consolation prize for the game shutting down or for the recent maintenance. The log-in bonus has also been upped to 100 Zoids Gold as of May 26, not sure for how long.
It seems while they're in the process of shutting things down the wheel will consist of almost entirely limited Zoids. The roulette wheel right now has a decent chunk of limited Zoids. The chance Zoids are:
Dark Horn** Saber Tiger Red** Command Wolf Military** Command Wolf Black* Command Wolf White* White Tiger Aqua* Saber Tiger Helcat
** are the ones advertised on the banner, * are the other limiteds there.
Also, does anyone know the names of the enemy Zoids? In particular the little arm/gunbarrel waving gunner things?
I'm sticking a Zoid Checklist here for my own personal reference. Trying to collect as many as I can before game death.
Cannon Tortoise
Command Wolf: Black B1 A1
Command Wolf: Military B1 A1X A1
Command Wolf: White B1 A1 A1X
Dark Horn B1 Gustav Hammer Rock
Hellcat B1
Iron Kong A1 Iron Kong: Forest Drum Iron Kong: Snowflake Metal Horn Molga Pandos Pandos: Gold Pandos: Krieger
Red Horn A1
Sabre Tiger B1
Sabre Tiger: Black A1X Sabre Tiger: Gold
Sabre Tiger: Red B2 Shield Liger
Shield Liger (RZ-007) A1 Shield Liger: Emerald Shield Liger: Pink Shield Liger: White
White Tiger A1X
White Tiger: Aqua B1 A1X White Tiger: Shadow
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Post by Falcarius on May 27, 2016 8:11:30 GMT -5
Game assets not code. Scripts usually are not accessible. But that game is not really the pinnacle of complexity. You can certainly not make it function offline without reimplementing the game. That said in such a case one could leave out all the riff-raff about money making, shop and news. If you strip the game of this blunder there is not much left if you look hard at it . I usually rip assets like 3d models, textures or animations. If a game gets shut down they sort-of turn it over into abandonware state Oh well, I can always hope... Even just having access to the models and textures is awesome. I can't read what it's for, but just logged in to 5,000 Zoids Gold? I assume some sort of consolation prize for the game shutting down or for the recent maintenance. The log-in bonus has also been upped to 100 Zoids Gold as of May 26, not sure for how long. ... Also, does anyone know the names of the enemy Zoids? In particular the little arm/gunbarrel waving gunner things? Yeah, the 5000ZG is a goodbye bonus, and the 100ZG login bonus is probably staying until the end (I don't think they've ever actually downgraded the login bonus before). Unfortunately, I think the only enemies they've given names for are the Tarantulas, Trilobites and Molgas (plus Ultrasaurus and Triceratops, of course). From tomorrow onwards (28/5~23/6), they're bringing back the "all weekday events unlocked" event (so we probably won't have any more training events) and dropping the Roulette price from 500 to 100 ZG. Next week's Roulette (28/5~3/6) will contain Iron Kong and Gold/Black Sabre Tigers, but there's a good chance it'll also have other limited critters that aren't shown in the banner. Oh, and my Roulette luck has finally improved, as I just picked up everything besides Hellcat with only 3 duplicates! I might as well start a checklist of my own... (Underline means I own it, strikethrough means I have a screenshot of its GET page.) MolgaGustavHellcat Cannon TortoiseCommand Wolf / Black / White / MilitaryHammerrockSabre Tiger / Red / Black / GoldShield Liger / Emerald / White / PinkWhite Tiger / Aqua / ShadowPandos / Gold / KriegerShield Liger RZ-007 Metal HornIron Kong / Snowflake / Forest DrumDark HornRed Horn
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Post by Hanyoutai on May 27, 2016 8:17:01 GMT -5
Congrats on the wonderful roulette luck!
I ended up starting a new game on the PC so I could get some easier video recordings, and have beaten all of Smart and Cloud Ocean. Managed all but the last with a lvl 124 Red Saber (3rd evo), and the last one at lvl 135.
I wonder if they boosted exp? It took less than a day to get my Red Saber up to around lvl 94-ish. (Can I also just say how glad I am that the 'get Zoids to level 99' thing caps at 10- I don't think I could grind very many before the game closes.)
The new Roulette Wheel is:
Iron Kong Saber Tiger Black Saber Tiger Gold Command Wolf Military Metal Horn White Tiger Aqua Shield Liger Gustav
(They could've at least varied it a bit more...)
Got my Saber Tiger Gold!
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Post by Falcarius on Jun 9, 2016 9:15:26 GMT -5
Current Roulette Zoids: Dark Horn, Saber Tiger Gold, Iron Kong Snowflake, Pandos Krieger, Command Wolf Black, White Tiger Shadow, Red Horn, Shield Liger White This doesn't quite match their latest Twitter update, so I'm not sure if they've changed it early or if the Twitter post was just wrong. I would check the in-game news feed, but it stopped updating at the end of May. On the plus side, I've only got six more Zoids (plus two Get screens) to collect, so I still have some hope for 100% Zoid completion! Hanyoutai: I'm guessing Cloud Ocean ends the same way as Smart Ocean (a double boss but nothing else of interest)? Are the Cloud Ocean island names in English, and if so, how do they compare with my translations? Oh, and have you managed to document most of the achievements?
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 9, 2016 16:18:37 GMT -5
The Shield Liger Pink wasn't in Roulette earlier in the week, either. The ones you listed are the ones it changed with, so I'm guessing they mixed up Pink with White. ... and will hopefully notice because I need a pink liger! For ... readability reasons, the names definitely don't use all the special characters. These are the names given in English: Ymir, Gandr, Fenrir, Nidhoggr, Sakadi, Utogarza, Hel, and Thialfi. And yeah, they end with a two boss battle. If I'm not mistaken it didn't even get its own color variation boss. I unfortunately have been slacking on achievements (and may not be able to get them all due to a lack of Zoids Gold and having started a new game to play until the closing date.) All the ones I have are being tracked here. The gold amounts seem to change randomly, sometimes up, sometimes down. I'm keeping track as I unlock them again to see if they changed the amounts since I last recorded most of those.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 11, 2016 17:29:35 GMT -5
It seems the new roulette went up sometime last night. A lot of repeat Zoids (Aqua Tiger, you're ok, but go away.) I expect we'll be seeing more closer to the closing date, hopefully with enough time to archive all.
New Wheel: - Pandos Gold - Shield Liger Pink - Command Wolf White - Iron Kong Forest Drum - Dark Horn - White Tiger Aqua - Pandos Krieger - Shield Liger
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Post by Falcarius on Jun 12, 2016 1:14:39 GMT -5
Only two new ones for me, and less than two weeks until shutdown. This does not bode well for 100% At least I have nearly all the colour variants now, but I still need the Emerald and Toy Shieldies, and I'd like to have the Get screens for base White Tiger and Pandos too. You're well ahead of me on all the achievements (although you're missing the Yellow Molga kills), so I probably can't help much there. If I have time, I'll probably aim for the Perfects. Interesting that they changed a couple of the Cloud island names compared to the map on the website. Thialfi could have been a typo of Thjazi, but Rudnir to Nidhoggr is a pretty major change. Now I'm curious what the Japanese versions say...
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 12, 2016 16:24:24 GMT -5
As far as I know, the Yellow Molga kills aren't part of the game anymore. They're like, listed there, so I'll add them later for completion, but after an entire game play through there is no progress on it. I'm pretty sure its a remnant from the early game days when they had "kill X color Molga" events, but without them anymore, I don't think you can play that achievement. The "Get perfect on X Mission" also starts at level 3 (on Ansur 1) because Ansur 2 and 3 don't exist anymore. Sad facts for completion obsessive people like me.
I'm also fretting about the Zoids. I'm missing quite a few more, like the normla Pandos, Teal Shieldy, Toy Shieldy, and a loooot of base Zoids. Hoping ot pick up most/all of the base Zoids on the 'get eprfect in X mission' achievements, but ehhhh. Need more time to waste on mobile games!
I wonder if you could find a Japanese emulator? Maybe it'd give the original names. Or you could ask someone on Twitter.
Does anyone know a good shooting Zoid that shoots a lot of targets at once? They have nerfed this game so much that variations between Zoids are practically pointless. They all seem to do the exact same things with varying degrees of damage, and firing rates that range from 'ok' to 'awful.' They used to have some that had missiles that'd fire alongside decent firing weapons, but out to the side. I haven't been able to find a Zoid like this since things were changed. Do they still exist?
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Post by lordofdragons on Jun 13, 2016 11:55:32 GMT -5
I think that gold saber or teal tiger is best for spamming. At last that's the last I've seen. Maybe it's better to extract models from the game content but at first glanze it seems they obfuscated the files. I did not have time to test importing them since as it seems you need 3DS max for it and I'm a Blender user.
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Post by Hanyoutai on Jun 13, 2016 20:10:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the info~ Working on a gold Saber at the moment so that's nice to know~
Hopefully the 3D problem works out.
I missed Lvl 7 of "get to X Zoids" (I'm assuming get to 30? In stock, not total). If anyone happens to pass it by could they confirm the number of Zoids and reward? I'm assuming 30/50 gold, but just want to be sure.
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Post by lordofdragons on Jun 14, 2016 11:38:06 GMT -5
Thanks for the info~ Working on a gold Saber at the moment so that's nice to know~ Hopefully the 3D problem works out. I missed Lvl 7 of "get to X Zoids" (I'm assuming get to 30? In stock, not total). If anyone happens to pass it by could they confirm the number of Zoids and reward? I'm assuming 30/50 gold, but just want to be sure. Unfortunately not. I did a quick test with a 3DS Max in a VirtualBox and the import script floating around the web but it seems they went to some length to fumble the easy solution. They use CAB files (Custom Archive Binaries). Usually that's easy to unpack but in this case they stuck true to the "custom" in the CAB. I did not see many yet trying hard to obfuscate the files. Usually with smartphone games it's not worth the hassle since they won't run for a long time anyway and should be cheep to make. Looks like they think they are "cool". Well, bummer for them but they are not . As it stands these files won't be able to be read without reverse engineering. But right now I'm not in the mood to do reverse engineering. Maybe during holiday session. Right now I'm quite occupied with other things.
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Post by Falcarius on Jun 16, 2016 5:40:09 GMT -5
That's a shame. I'm assuming you can pull the models out of the APK without needing the game to actually run? I missed Lvl 7 of "get to X Zoids" (I'm assuming get to 30? In stock, not total). If anyone happens to pass it by could they confirm the number of Zoids and reward? I'm assuming 30/50 gold, but just want to be sure. Yep, 30 Zoids for 50 ZG. Does anyone know a good shooting Zoid that shoots a lot of targets at once? They have nerfed this game so much that variations between Zoids are practically pointless. They all seem to do the exact same things with varying degrees of damage, and firing rates that range from 'ok' to 'awful.' They used to have some that had missiles that'd fire alongside decent firing weapons, but out to the side. I haven't been able to find a Zoid like this since things were changed. Do they still exist? The bottom-right evolution of Dark Horn looks hilariously overgunned, but you'll need about 40 Battlenium to actually make one There's also a similarly gun-covered White Command Wolf and Mk-II versions of the Iron Kongs, although I haven't actually played with anything much besides my second-evolution Lv70 Shield Liger (which is probably why I haven't been able to beat Jara yet ). Oh, and no sign of mid-week updates to the Roulette yet. Fingers crossed...
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Post by lordofdragons on Jun 16, 2016 11:33:38 GMT -5
That's a shame. I'm assuming you can pull the models out of the APK without needing the game to actually run? This is correct. It's not easy to get the files onto your computer in the first place since they are located in app-private (and thus inaccessible) memory but if you "know how" you can do it EDIT: That's actually not quite correct. The APK itself is uesless. It contains only the loader. You need to run the game once and let it download all the content into app-private memory. Then you need a little "magic dragon" to get it out of there. So yes, after they shut down their server the APK is useless.
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